From elektrik98@yahoo.com Sun Jan 1 02:44:14 2006 Received: from web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.152]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k018iAWO021698 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 02:44:11 -0600 Received: (qmail 26914 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jan 2006 08:44:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=q1b9+UQthdX8dx6YOg7QplG/APuLz0a1ICXMDDj+K7cYzN5SJunMv2xjoU7iQ9r5sJeFrptzFAPSjIxnwf1lvFsmyCqYoX6M823+6ZAf8peY1mVkM9pdJrG0oaey0/qWGY4P3cTVzGxDjAS2xFM2zwfIg7Hb0eCavtAsW0SyZXM= ; Message-ID: <20060101084409.26912.qmail@web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [144.133.199.220] by web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 19:44:09 EST Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 19:44:09 +1100 (EST) From: Doug Maloney To: moo-cows@moo-cows.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] help with new server please X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: elektrik98@yahoo.com, "General MOO discussion." 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 08:44:16 -0000 hi i've been getting very frustrated getting a LambdaMOO database running on a Mac with OSX briefly - i've built the server and it runs and appears to work perfectly with Minimal.db , however when i use any of the LambdaMOO databases which i've found, i get the following error when i first try to connect as wizard ...... connect wizard #55:map_arg*s, line 10: Type mismatch ... called from #46:name_list, line 1 ... called from #46:make_message, line 9 ... called from #46:send_message, line 23 ... called from #0:handle_uncaught_error, line 5 (End of traceback) #37:find_exact (this == #39), line 5: Type mismatch ... called from #10:_match_player, line 9 ... called from #10:co*nnect @co*nnect, line 17 ... called from #0:do_login_command, line 19 (End of traceback) i also get errors with "uptime", "create player password", "?" but not with "help" or malformed commands ("connect" without a player name for example) it appears (to me) that the first bit is trying to mail out the error to the admin, and the _real_ error is the error on object #37... yes/no ? anyway, i've tried everything i can think of, and all the suggestions i've seen too, including setting support_numeric_verbname_strings to true (by entering into emergency wizard mode on the db) i'd really appreciate some guidance ..... if anyone can help ... cheers dmx Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From compgeek13@gmail.com Sun Jan 1 10:02:47 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k01G2i0C001522 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 10:02:44 -0600 Received: from [69.146.198.44] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-1.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.7) with SMTP id 348096000; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 09:02:42 -0700 Message-ID: <002a01c60eec$cd4e9db0$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: , "General MOO discussion." References: <20060101084409.26912.qmail@web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with new server please Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 08:02:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 16:02:50 -0000 have you tried re-downloading a new database? I have had to do that, and after that, it worked fine with me. Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Maloney" To: Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:44 AM Subject: [Moo-cows] help with new server please > hi > > i've been getting very frustrated getting a LambdaMOO > database running on a Mac with OSX > > briefly - i've built the server and it runs and > appears to work perfectly with Minimal.db , however > when i use any of the LambdaMOO databases which i've > found, i get the following error when i first try to > connect as wizard ...... > > connect wizard > #55:map_arg*s, line 10: Type mismatch > ... called from #46:name_list, line 1 > ... called from #46:make_message, line 9 > ... called from #46:send_message, line 23 > ... called from #0:handle_uncaught_error, line 5 > (End of traceback) > #37:find_exact (this == #39), line 5: Type mismatch > ... called from #10:_match_player, line 9 > ... called from #10:co*nnect @co*nnect, line 17 > ... called from #0:do_login_command, line 19 > (End of traceback) > > i also get errors with "uptime", "create player > password", "?" but not with "help" or malformed > commands ("connect" without a player name for example) > > it appears (to me) that the first bit is trying to > mail out the error to the admin, and the _real_ error > is the error on object #37... yes/no ? > > anyway, i've tried everything i can think of, and all > the suggestions i've seen too, including setting > support_numeric_verbname_strings to true (by entering > into emergency wizard mode on the db) > > i'd really appreciate some guidance ..... if anyone > can help ... > > cheers > dmx > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows From elektrik98@yahoo.com Sun Jan 1 16:51:02 2006 Received: from web30811.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30811.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.254]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k01Mos9h015634 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 16:50:55 -0600 Received: (qmail 18736 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jan 2006 22:50:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=iPbIE6vwQtOHMqsWpR9mXP+k/dSW4w/qXYxCVMDahQ2B5oMH35/q0rYbUhOWzdpwraGVl8DqoL80ya/8M0SC4RZBa3NgeRuKFmaamYysyDUTXORm6uV+DmLU0UVLvMw4bDkpAOpEosnkwRbHBXorWfyhDyDmUIdAbblj9MFyDmE= ; Message-ID: <20060101225053.18734.qmail@web30811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [144.133.198.103] by web30811.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 09:50:53 EST Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:50:53 +1100 (EST) From: Doug Maloney Subject: Fwd: Re: [Moo-cows] help with new server please To: moo-cows@moo-cows.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: elektrik98@yahoo.com, "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:51:03 -0000 jerry Thankyou thankyou - downloaded from your site and it works on 10.4.3. I'd really love to know why though - i never like it when problems just 'go away' I actually got the original instructions for compiling the moo from your site and went through slowly winding back those modifications you suggested in case one of them caused the problem. I might try again from scratch. Useful to have such detailed instructions available - thanks. Also, just fyi, I went through the process of installing moo via "darwinports" though i experienced the same problem with that version. --doug --- Jerry Stratton wrote: > > I get the same error on newly-compiled versions of > MOO 1.8.1, whether > I use the latest LambdaCore from > ftp.lambda.MOO.mud.org/ or an old > one (LambdaCore-12Apr99.db) that I downloaded the > last time I played > with MOO. > > However, if I use a copy of MOO 1.8.1 that I > compiled back then *from > the same source* I don't get an error. I have no > idea what that > means. If you want a copy of the old compilation (no > guarantees on > it), I've put it up temporarily at > http://cerebus.sandiego.edu/~jerry/ > UnixTips/moo.gz > > I'm currently using Mac OS X 10.4.3; I compiled the > previous version > on either 10.1 or 10.2. (My notes are still up at > http:// > cerebus.sandiego.edu/~jerry/blog/article.php?story=20021014123750109 > > though they don't seem to be necessary any more, at > least in the > sense that MOO now compiles without those changes.) > > I tried compiling from my old, modified source and > from a fresh > source (both of which are 1.8.1) from the LambdaMOO > site; both > generated the same error you saw on connecting as > wizard. > > Jerry > http://www.ItIsntMurder.com/ > "Give a man a fish, and you've fed him for a day. > Teach him to fish, and > you've depleted the lake."--It Isn't Murder If > They're Yankees > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com From jerry@hoboes.com Sun Jan 1 22:18:34 2006 Received: from relay02.pair.com (relay02.pair.com [209.68.5.16]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k024IUQP020349 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 22:18:30 -0600 Received: (qmail 96204 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2006 04:18:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 2 Jan 2006 04:18:28 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 68.107.12.226 Resent-Message-Id: <1872509C-F466-4713-9268-92724834289D@hoboes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 20:18:28 -0800 Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-To: "General MOO discussion." From: Jerry Stratton Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with new server please Resent-From: Jerry Stratton Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 11:24:57 -0800 To: elektrik98@yahoo.com, "General MOO discussion." X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 04:18:34 -0000 On Jan 1, 2006, at 12:44 AM, Doug Maloney wrote: > i've been getting very frustrated getting a LambdaMOO > database running on a Mac with OSX > > briefly - i've built the server and it runs and > appears to work perfectly with Minimal.db , however > when i use any of the LambdaMOO databases which i've > found, i get the following error when i first try to > connect as wizard ...... I get the same error on newly-compiled versions of MOO 1.8.1, whether I use the latest LambdaCore from ftp.lambda.MOO.mud.org/ or an old one (LambdaCore-12Apr99.db) that I downloaded the last time I played with MOO. However, if I use a copy of MOO 1.8.1 that I compiled back then *from the same source* I don't get an error. I have no idea what that means. If you want a copy of the old compilation (no guarantees on it), I've put it up temporarily at http://cerebus.sandiego.edu/~jerry/ UnixTips/moo.gz I'm currently using Mac OS X 10.4.3; I compiled the previous version on either 10.1 or 10.2. (My notes are still up at http:// cerebus.sandiego.edu/~jerry/blog/article.php?story=20021014123750109 though they don't seem to be necessary any more, at least in the sense that MOO now compiles without those changes.) I tried compiling from my old, modified source and from a fresh source (both of which are 1.8.1) from the LambdaMOO site; both generated the same error you saw on connecting as wizard. Jerry http://www.ItIsntMurder.com/ "Give a man a fish, and you've fed him for a day. Teach him to fish, and you've depleted the lake."--It Isn't Murder If They're Yankees From compgeek13@gmail.com Mon Jan 2 10:17:28 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02GHK8n003801 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 10:17:20 -0600 Received: from [69.146.198.44] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-1.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.7) with SMTP id 348648203 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 09:17:19 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01c60fb8$038bcad0$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 08:17:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] help with error statements? X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 16:17:29 -0000 Hay list, Can someone help me? I need a list of all the possible errors, and an explaination on how to use try statements. I tried to use the manual with these, and, things didn't go so well. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] From compgeek13@gmail.com Mon Jan 2 11:22:33 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02HMU7f011741 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 11:22:30 -0600 Received: from [69.146.198.44] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-3.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.7) with SMTP id 136748165 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 10:22:29 -0700 Message-ID: <010401c60fc1$1df9c210$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:22:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] help with pretty printing. X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:22:34 -0000 Hay list, I have a question. Sorry, (I seem to have lots of them), I am blind, so, it is a bit hard or me to deal with pretty printing. Unfortunately, I don't know any sighted moo programmers who could help, so... I am working on a menu. Does someone have some code that will get a list, and split it up into catigories, and print it into even colemns on the screen? Thanks, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] From groucho7@operamail.com Mon Jan 2 15:12:59 2006 Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing2.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02LCtCE007362 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:12:55 -0600 Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 66461180021B for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:12:54 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.16) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 2 Jan 2006 21:12:54 -0000 Received: by ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 566647B386; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:12:54 +0000 (GMT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Gary Foiles" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:12:54 -0600 Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with pretty printing. Received: from [71.50.20.89] by ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com with http for groucho7@operamail.com; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:12:54 -0600 X-Originating-Ip: 71.50.20.89 X-Originating-Server: ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20060102211254.566647B386@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by new.cgi101.com id k02LCtCE007362 X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:13:00 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: tyler To: "General MOO discussion." Subject: [Moo-cows] help with pretty printing. Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:22:32 -0800 > I am working on a menu. Does someone have some code that will get a list, > and split it up into catigories, and print it into even colemns on the > screen? Give me an example of your proposed input and what you'd like to see returned. Like, for example: input: {{"option 1", "this:do_blah()"}, {"option 2", "this:tell_blah()"}, {"option 3", "this:close_blah()"}} desired output: Menu 1. option 1 2. option 2 3. option 3 Make your choice: Something to give me an idea of exactly what you want. Gary Luke Foiles groucho7@operamail.com -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze From groucho7@operamail.com Mon Jan 2 15:16:52 2006 Received: from webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.67]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02LGp0E008388 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:16:51 -0600 Received: from unknown (unknown [192.168.9.180]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 8FF5C18001C8 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:16:50 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.16) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 2 Jan 2006 21:16:50 -0000 Received: by ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8183B7B386; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:16:50 +0000 (GMT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Gary Foiles" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:16:50 -0600 Received: from [71.50.20.89] by ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com with http for groucho7@operamail.com; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:16:50 -0600 X-Originating-Ip: 71.50.20.89 X-Originating-Server: ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20060102211650.8183B7B386@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by new.cgi101.com id k02LGp0E008388 Subject: [Moo-cows] Programming Approaches Generally X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:16:54 -0000 I'm sure you've done programming in other languages, so you know that most programming can be done easily if one just clarifies what the input will be and what the desired output is. Once you are clear about what's going in and what you want to come out, massaging the verb code to get from input to output is often fairly easy. Gary Luke Foiles groucho7@operamail.com -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze From neil.fraser@gmail.com Mon Jan 2 16:58:40 2006 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.198]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02MwPXb021077 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:58:25 -0600 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id p46so858438nfa for ; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:58:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mCV2WpLGdWFUeTg79y0f1X6QmiFeLPmOiD9+evAdTn4SUUWnbBi7vIu6bH6ElBG9XS+r4o8J0aVg6Yt9+n1f03t2uEP2jZigeYoTosxae8A1Mv0c8YciII0S3/rQiZPGpcHuLbF5FV9RvEOQuq6Dp+YqSQYKUzAHNAEFEDO89xo= Received: by 10.48.202.12 with SMTP id z12mr524514nff; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:58:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.34.20 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:58:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <416401b00601021458te87db1al@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:58:23 -0500 From: Neil Fraser To: "General MOO discussion." Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with error statements? In-Reply-To: <000f01c60fb8$038bcad0$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <000f01c60fb8$038bcad0$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by new.cgi101.com id k02MwPXb021077 X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 22:58:45 -0000 On 02/01/06, tyler wrote: > Can someone help me? I need a list of all the possible errors, and an > explaination on how to use try statements. The complete list of error codes: E_NONE No error E_TYPE Type mismatch E_DIV Division by zero E_PERM Permission denied E_PROPNF Property not found E_VERBNF Verb not found E_VARNF Variable not found E_INVIND Invalid indirection E_RECMOVE Recursive move E_MAXREC Too many verb calls E_RANGE Range error E_ARGS Incorrect number of arguments E_NACC Move refused by destination E_INVARG Invalid argument E_QUOTA Resource limit exceeded E_FLOAT Floating-point arithmetic error (as copied and pasted from ?errors) Example of try: try x = a / b; except (E_DIV) player:tell("b=0"); endtry Some of the advantages and disadvantages of error trapping are described here: http://neil.fraser.name/writing/exception/ -- Neil Fraser, Programmer & Wizard http://neil.fraser.name From jhsw1@mn.rr.com Mon Jan 2 17:23:23 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.129]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02NNLmQ024260 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:23:22 -0600 Received: from [192.168.0.103] (CPE-69-76-16-43.mn.res.rr.com [69.76.16.43]) by ms-smtp-03.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k02NJRgu010843 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:19:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.371 [267.14.10/218]); Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:22:59 -0600 Message-ID: <005301c60ff3$783274c0$6700a8c0@dellsrv> From: "Jason" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:22:59 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] speaking of errors... X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:23:23 -0000 Hi, I was wondering if any of you know how to add new E_ values. I'm sure it requires editing the server, but that's ok with me. I just want to know how to do it. Thanks. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.10/218 - Release Date: 1/2/2006 From compgeek13@gmail.com Mon Jan 2 17:31:39 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02NVXFV025581 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:31:33 -0600 Received: from [69.146.198.44] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.7) with SMTP id 265983315 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 16:31:31 -0700 Message-ID: <000801c60ff4$abe0a160$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." References: <20060102211254.566647B386@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with pretty printing. Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:31:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:31:40 -0000 I want something like, {{item}{price}} ---------- (across the screen, or how ever it looks good. num-------item-----price 1 sword 3000 2 spear 2400 Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Foiles" To: "General MOO discussion." Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with pretty printing. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: tyler > To: "General MOO discussion." > Subject: [Moo-cows] help with pretty printing. > Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:22:32 -0800 > > > I am working on a menu. Does someone have some code that will get a list, > > and split it up into catigories, and print it into even colemns on the > > screen? > > Give me an example of your proposed input and what you'd like to see returned. Like, for example: > > input: {{"option 1", "this:do_blah()"}, {"option 2", "this:tell_blah()"}, {"option 3", "this:close_blah()"}} > > desired output: > > Menu > > 1. option 1 > 2. option 2 > 3. option 3 > > Make your choice: > > > Something to give me an idea of exactly what you want. > > > Gary Luke Foiles > groucho7@operamail.com > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 8 at http://www.opera.com > > Powered by Outblaze > > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows From compgeek13@gmail.com Mon Jan 2 17:37:41 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k02NbdW0026031 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:37:39 -0600 Received: from [69.146.198.44] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-1.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.7) with SMTP id 348867865 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 16:37:38 -0700 Message-ID: <009a01c60ff5$865db490$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." References: <000f01c60fb8$038bcad0$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> <416401b00601021458te87db1al@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with error statements? Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 15:37:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:37:42 -0000 aha, I get it! thx! Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Fraser" To: "General MOO discussion." Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with error statements? > On 02/01/06, tyler wrote: > > Can someone help me? I need a list of all the possible errors, and an > > explaination on how to use try statements. > > The complete list of error codes: > E_NONE No error > E_TYPE Type mismatch > E_DIV Division by zero > E_PERM Permission denied > E_PROPNF Property not found > E_VERBNF Verb not found > E_VARNF Variable not found > E_INVIND Invalid indirection > E_RECMOVE Recursive move > E_MAXREC Too many verb calls > E_RANGE Range error > E_ARGS Incorrect number of arguments > E_NACC Move refused by destination > E_INVARG Invalid argument > E_QUOTA Resource limit exceeded > E_FLOAT Floating-point arithmetic error > (as copied and pasted from ?errors) > > Example of try: > > try > x = a / b; > except (E_DIV) > player:tell("b=0"); > endtry > > Some of the advantages and disadvantages of error trapping are described here: > http://neil.fraser.name/writing/exception/ > > -- > Neil Fraser, Programmer & Wizard > http://neil.fraser.name > > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows From neil.fraser@gmail.com Tue Jan 3 04:44:31 2006 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.202]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03AiQdt002949 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 04:44:27 -0600 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id p46so893445nfa for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:44:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=s8E9B9LBeNk6qjQPmuZBNMzcZjWD/uNPsfnqpBxYkNXy8WgR0t8zuoSA7LY/PhHDQN6QAJPoYDDR96A9YVzlSMJowME6PaNTt52CSR1quWV1JU6suZiBn445JZVPBGuNHLmeblgpToarqGjH9ldQlptlypTNSpHJVwu+IoSmgNU= Received: by 10.48.49.20 with SMTP id w20mr546298nfw; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:44:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.34.20 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 02:44:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <416401b00601030244r7e0a0680v@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 05:44:23 -0500 From: Neil Fraser To: "General MOO discussion." Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] speaking of errors... In-Reply-To: <005301c60ff3$783274c0$6700a8c0@dellsrv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <005301c60ff3$783274c0$6700a8c0@dellsrv> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by new.cgi101.com id k03AiQdt002949 X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 10:44:33 -0000 On 02/01/06, Jason wrote: > I was wondering if any of you know how to add new E_ values. I'm sure > it requires editing the server, but that's ok with me. I just want to know > how to do it. The obvious place is structures.h. This is the internal list used by the server: /* Do not reorder or otherwise modify this list, except to add new elements at * the end, since the order here defines the numeric equivalents of the error * values, and those equivalents are both DB-accessible knowledge and stored in * raw form in the DB. */ enum error { E_NONE, E_TYPE, E_DIV, E_PERM, E_PROPNF, E_VERBNF, E_VARNF, E_INVIND, E_RECMOVE, E_MAXREC, E_RANGE, E_ARGS, E_NACC, E_INVARG, E_QUOTA, E_FLOAT }; But it looks like one also needs to edit keywords.c. This is used by the server to parse Moo code: [...] {"endfor", DBV_Prehistory, tENDFOR}, {"e_range", DBV_Prehistory, tERROR, E_RANGE}, {"endwhile", DBV_Prehistory, tENDWHILE}, {"e_recmove", DBV_Prehistory, tERROR, E_RECMOVE}, {"",}, {"e_none", DBV_Prehistory, tERROR, E_NONE}, {"",}, {"e_propnf", DBV_Prehistory, tERROR, E_PROPNF}, {"fork", DBV_Prehistory, tFORK}, [...] Looks like one can add a new error into any of the (many) blank spots. -- Neil Fraser, Programmer & Wizard http://neil.fraser.name From neil.fraser@gmail.com Tue Jan 3 05:12:43 2006 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.192]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03BCbuk005918 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 05:12:38 -0600 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id p46so895532nfa for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 03:12:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hToGqVwvYRfEPApl+PLTm/suUoJnTfupSXbD7z6aOGEfcflbH7dWlANeioyPE7wcd+U8INMpaec8vksdTHaGodhUwoA9HzIrV4Cu7+AOTt9bzRjoDbQkcgW9cdp5HnVbhWQx8Dsy0WigeCgx40bphzQalGwT4eC19vEo1Nd/CJI= Received: by 10.48.202.12 with SMTP id z12mr546425nff; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 03:12:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.34.20 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 03:12:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <416401b00601030312w12d5f873v@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 06:12:36 -0500 From: Neil Fraser To: "General MOO discussion." Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with pretty printing. In-Reply-To: <000801c60ff4$abe0a160$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060102211254.566647B386@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> <000801c60ff4$abe0a160$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by new.cgi101.com id k03BCbuk005918 X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:12:44 -0000 On 02/01/06, tyler wrote: > I want something like, > {{item}{price}} > ---------- (across the screen, or how ever it looks good. > num-------item-----price > 1 sword 3000 > 2 spear 2400 LambdaCore has a verb called $string_utils:columnise_suspended http://neil.fraser.name/scripts/moowebbrowser.py?db=LambdaCore.db&obj=20&verbnum=60 For a more sophisicated solution, try: http://www.moo.ca/physical:tellColumns*_suspended -- Neil Fraser, Programmer & Wizard http://neil.fraser.name From compgeek13@gmail.com Tue Jan 3 16:27:00 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03MQv72027921 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:26:58 -0600 Received: from [69.146.198.44] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-3.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.7) with SMTP id 137496321 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:26:56 -0700 Message-ID: <032a01c610b4$d09521f0$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 14:27:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] generating a random variable out of a list? X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:27:01 -0000 Hay list, I have a list, and I want to generate a random number out of it, I don't care if it is a random number, from 1 to n, where n is the last element of the list, as long as something is possible, I am flexable. Is anything possible with this? Thanks, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] From loufah2@yahoo.com Tue Jan 3 16:35:33 2006 Received: from web50705.mail.yahoo.com (web50705.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.103]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k03MZUZg029260 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:35:30 -0600 Received: (qmail 52242 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Jan 2006 22:35:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=u68KiebGhwurZwpN8byYIjo97Rc6U8f+FVj4rPVUh9RMAsTh5vQQs3Vcy09u7pYODOzUDjIKoMEu2kc5MJYGZkkeg/IiiIera7M62UeKvEg4bwIIjIZgbVJjNhfskZQwWGB8+fKr6SVs8RmbpCMHUT4cTkNcY8dYLvoQ2MkgJQI= ; Message-ID: <20060103223529.52240.qmail@web50705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [135.207.22.213] by web50705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 14:35:29 PST Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 14:35:29 -0800 (PST) From: loufah loufah Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] generating a random variable out of a list? 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Just $16.99/mo. or less --0-1938305212-1136327729=:51368 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If your list is named li, then li[random($)] will be a random element of the list.


Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less --0-1938305212-1136327729=:51368-- From herve@hawaii.edu Tue Jan 3 16:37:27 2006 Received: from jem01.its.hawaii.edu (jem01.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.224.23]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03MbOn0029457 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:37:24 -0600 Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.jem01.its.hawaii.edu by jem01.its.hawaii.edu (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.04 (built Oct 7 2005)) id <0ISJ00F7XG6BPD00@jem01.its.hawaii.edu>; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:37:23 -1000 (HST) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (pseng2.kcc.hawaii.edu [166.122.14.178]) by jem01.its.hawaii.edu (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.04 (built Oct 7 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0ISJ00ABBG5UT190@jem01.its.hawaii.edu>; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:37:06 -1000 (HST) Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:37:05 -1000 From: "Kr@nX" Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] generating a random variable out of a list? In-reply-to: <032a01c610b4$d09521f0$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> To: "General MOO discussion." Message-id: <43BAFC91.3040408@hawaii.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-PMX-Version: 5.1.1.222179, Antispam-Engine: 2.1.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2006.1.3.27 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 References: <032a01c610b4$d09521f0$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc4 (X11/20050929) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:37:29 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tyler, If your list is called: mylist, then: nb = random(length(mylist)); would do. Or if you want to extract a random element from it: player:notify(mylist[random(length(mylist))]); (assuming elements are strings). Aloha, rv, tyler wrote: > Hay list, > I have a list, and I want to generate a random number out of it, I don't > care if it is a random number, from 1 to n, where n is the last element of > the list, as long as something is possible, I am flexable. > Is anything possible with this? > Thanks, > Tyler Littlefield. > Check out our website: > http://tysplace.the-leetest.net > check out my blog: > livejournal.com/~tylerrl > [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] > [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] > > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows > - -- "The only excuse for god is that he doesn't exist". F.W. Nietzsche -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDuvyQgQzy1Lwhh8gRAgkqAKDE2i4owIxKo4nDJ0qrPUYtmbTvEgCfU8Iy uc6xS33m0wRzAGpsQXhS9is= =FV94 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From compgeek13@gmail.com Tue Jan 3 16:37:51 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03Mbmnr029528 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:37:49 -0600 Received: from [69.146.198.44] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-1.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.7) with SMTP id 349509243 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:37:47 -0700 Message-ID: <034f01c610b6$54996870$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." References: <20060103223529.52240.qmail@web50705.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] generating a random variable out of a list? Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 14:37:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_034C_01C61073.46120F70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:37:51 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_034C_01C61073.46120F70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was just testing it, and came up with this as well... ;player:tell(player.contents[random(length(player.contents))].name); Thanks, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message -----=20 From: loufah loufah=20 To: General MOO discussion.=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] generating a random variable out of a list? If your list is named li, then li[random($)] will be a random element = of the list. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. 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I was just testing it, and came up with = this as=20 well...
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Thanks,
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------=_NextPart_000_034C_01C61073.46120F70-- From compgeek13@gmail.com Tue Jan 3 17:20:48 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03NKhIt002590 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 17:20:43 -0600 Received: from [69.146.198.44] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.7) with SMTP id 266593985 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:20:42 -0700 Message-ID: <038201c610bc$5361c410$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." References: <032a01c610b4$d09521f0$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> <43BAFC91.3040408@hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] generating a random variable out of a list? Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:20:45 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 23:20:50 -0000 thx. Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kr@nX" To: "General MOO discussion." Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] generating a random variable out of a list? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tyler, > If your list is called: mylist, then: > > nb = random(length(mylist)); > would do. > Or if you want to extract a random element from it: > player:notify(mylist[random(length(mylist))]); > (assuming elements are strings). > > Aloha, > rv, > > tyler wrote: > > Hay list, > > I have a list, and I want to generate a random number out of it, I don't > > care if it is a random number, from 1 to n, where n is the last element of > > the list, as long as something is possible, I am flexable. > > Is anything possible with this? > > Thanks, > > Tyler Littlefield. > > Check out our website: > > http://tysplace.the-leetest.net > > check out my blog: > > livejournal.com/~tylerrl > > [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] > > [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moo-cows mailing list > > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows > > > > - -- > "The only excuse for god is that he doesn't exist". F.W. Nietzsche > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFDuvyQgQzy1Lwhh8gRAgkqAKDE2i4owIxKo4nDJ0qrPUYtmbTvEgCfU8Iy > uc6xS33m0wRzAGpsQXhS9is= > =FV94 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows From compgeek13@gmail.com Tue Jan 3 17:28:44 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03NSgpx003356 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 17:28:42 -0600 Received: from [69.146.198.44] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.7) with SMTP id 266598067 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:28:41 -0700 Message-ID: <039b01c610bd$70fb2b50$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:28:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] help with permissions? X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 23:28:46 -0000 Hay people, I am trying to create mobs, but, I am creating them with a room, and with a forked task, problem is, I can't use the create command, so, could I do: #2:_create() or is there something else that will work? Thanks, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] From compgeek13@gmail.com Tue Jan 3 17:55:20 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k03NtAmp006757 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 17:55:10 -0600 Received: from [69.146.198.44] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-3.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.7) with SMTP id 137539024 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:55:09 -0700 Message-ID: <03ca01c610c1$236daa80$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 15:55:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] last question *me thinks* X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 23:55:27 -0000 Hay guys, Sorry for all the questions. I have rescently switched to JHcore, and as an experiment before I switched, I sorta crashed lambda, well, I said it was an experiment, but, it was only because I was switching. lol, Anyway, would someone be kind enough to post the $room:look_self verb? jhcore has sorta killed my pretty look_self verbs, and well, I would like to fix a few of there errors. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] From neil.fraser@gmail.com Tue Jan 3 18:09:19 2006 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.196]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k0409HEa008846 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:09:18 -0600 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id p46so964079nfa for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:08:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pidY5gmK7wTI5/G4c/2dRHvoGWwZ/BP+5q1E5O3zsuOK2Bb48qvOlV4lS1cZCeLvUSCgTQtApWHemD1SourhEzYZaByKx2xeSB9x+IS3lA2d4y0wl/G+4uAUDu2StGbwRehk6ja9FfkP0hvM8GytnHWfUxMWoN+RT6VwQBA6voY= Received: by 10.48.202.12 with SMTP id z12mr590387nff; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.34.20 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:08:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <416401b00601031608v4992c389y@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:08:42 -0500 From: Neil Fraser To: "General MOO discussion." Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] last question *me thinks* In-Reply-To: <03ca01c610c1$236daa80$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <03ca01c610c1$236daa80$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by new.cgi101.com id k0409HEa008846 X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 00:09:20 -0000 On 03/01/06, tyler wrote: > I have rescently switched to JHcore, and as an experiment before I switched, > I sorta crashed lambda, well, I said it was an experiment, but, it was only > because I was switching. lol, > Anyway, would someone be kind enough to post the $room:look_self verb? You can pick up any verb from any database here: http://neil.fraser.name/scripts/moowebbrowser.py BTW, to anyone else out there, if your favourite core database isn't listed, send me a copy and I'll add it. Moo Canada will join the list as soon as we finish fumigating those awful WAIFs out of our core. -- Neil Fraser, Programmer & Wizard http://neil.fraser.name From compgeek13@gmail.com Wed Jan 4 12:56:20 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k04IuFKc013180 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 12:56:15 -0600 Received: from [69.146.198.44] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-1.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.7) with SMTP id 350110996 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:56:14 -0700 Message-ID: <00b301c61045$080c4ed0$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 01:06:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] server problems X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:56:21 -0000 Hay, when I do the following st8amnd2005@frostmud:~$ restart jhcore 8743 [1] 31815 [1] Exit 1 ./moo jhcore.db jhcore.db.new 8743 >>& $1.l og st8amnd2005@frostmud:~$ why does it do this? What did I do to piss this thing off? lol Thanks, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] From loufah2@yahoo.com Wed Jan 4 21:03:12 2006 Received: from web50713.mail.yahoo.com (web50713.mail.yahoo.com [68.142.224.80]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k05331df012409 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 21:03:01 -0600 Received: (qmail 4500 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jan 2006 03:03:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MuVamP+IwoI5Xx7CAMttCXg4aSjkwEfB/Gie4FwHLzCno+WsDJwcxlWhaW7NWmv/aYMuUK8PP8eEsnDJVwu/U5B9QjhfCEh1EL7FAHg7sJWyhlhfwAvxxSgD1Q15U8ZTRaDYlR6c+xGmYd2uAmugaBr8wzEsaAg7gsoRBtYSarY= ; Message-ID: <20060105030300.4490.qmail@web50713.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [135.207.21.84] by web50713.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:03:00 PST Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 19:03:00 -0800 (PST) From: loufah loufah Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with new server please To: "General MOO discussion." In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1407060275-1136430180=:3718" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:03:13 -0000 --0-1407060275-1136430180=:3718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I reproduced the problem, using the 1.8.2 source. The log contains lines like *** BECOME_INTEGER: Impossible var type: 36 I turned on malloc debugging, and got lines like *** BECOME_INTEGER: Impossible var type: 1431655765 And 1431655765 turns out to be a bunch of 0x55's, which is what the malloc debugger fills up freed space with. Haven't had luck trying to get malloc_history to reveal the call chain that allocated that particular chunk of memory. --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less --0-1407060275-1136430180=:3718 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I reproduced the problem, using the 1.8.2 source.  The log contains lines like

*** BECOME_INTEGER: Impossible var type: 36

I turned on malloc debugging, and got lines like

*** BECOME_INTEGER: Impossible var type: 1431655765

And 1431655765 turns out to be a bunch of 0x55's, which is what the malloc debugger fills up freed space with.  Haven't had luck trying to get malloc_history to reveal the call chain that allocated that particular chunk of memory.



Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less --0-1407060275-1136430180=:3718-- From compgeek13@gmail.com Thu Jan 5 16:47:53 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k05Mloqt031070 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 16:47:51 -0600 Received: from [69.146.198.44] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-3.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.7) with SMTP id 138852471 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 15:47:49 -0700 Message-ID: <000b01c61252$f2659680$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 15:51:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] help with server compilation X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:47:54 -0000 Hay, I did shconfigure, configured options.h, and did make. Now, I am getting this error. unparse.o(.text+0x94f): In function `ok_identifier': /home/st8amnd2005/moo_src/unparse.c:472: undefined reference to `find_keyword' graphic 470 parser.o(.text+0x1a34): In function `yylex': /home/st8amnd2005/moo_src/parser.y:902: undefined reference to `find_keyword' parser.o(.text+0x2033): In function `parse_program': /home/st8amnd2005/moo_src/parser.y:1142: undefined reference to `find_keyword' graphic 768 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [moo] Error 1 Any idea why? How would I fix this? Thx, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] From loufah2@yahoo.com Sun Jan 8 12:27:32 2006 Received: from web50706.mail.yahoo.com (web50706.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.104]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k08IRSTW023714 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2006 12:27:28 -0600 Received: (qmail 26068 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jan 2006 18:27:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=R3eyNIA7CwoO5Nt82xOnpBLl+Dq7IqoYNAh8TIQeXJ2cjF661g+qmZdeFkzaoP4WfS8JDeB1h+awIL0bqu4+xbmnHCQ5NOaJ9SLvvDpyyv2vPn/y9HgsyU5P6WUEQy1m+0cMfiBRbUaXmw6Bf9dJfh9qmx/poPCbCGhYc4Gbb1c= ; Message-ID: <20060108182727.26066.qmail@web50706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [135.207.21.106] by web50706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 10:27:27 PST Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:27:27 -0800 (PST) From: loufah loufah Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with new server please To: "General MOO discussion." In-Reply-To: <20060105030300.4490.qmail@web50713.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1981467892-1136744847=:23845" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:27:34 -0000 --0-1981467892-1136744847=:23845 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Looks like a code generation bug in OS X 10.4's compiler. In the MOO's execute.c, in the OP_RANGE_REF code: } else { PUSH((base.type == TYPE_STR ? substr(base, from.v.num, to.v.num) : sublist(base, from.v.num, to.v.num))); /* base freed by substr/sublist */ free_var(from); free_var(to); } substr() is never called - it's not even put into execute.o's symbol table. And rts is not incremented - PUSH is a macro, (*(rts++) = v). So the run-time stack gets messed up. It's not a macro bug - the same problem happens if I run cc -E execute.c and compile the output file. If I take away the ++, the object file does get a reference to substr(). So, this change appears to make things work: 719c719 < #define PUSH(v) (*(rts++) = v) --- > #define PUSH(v) (*rts = (v), rts++, rts[-1]) If anyone has a way to submit bug reports to Apple, here's a short program that demonstrates the bug: #include typedef struct { int i; } Var; Var a() { Var v; v.i=1; printf("called a\n"); return v; } Var b() { Var v; v.i=1; printf("called b\n"); return v; } main() { Var va[10]; Var *rts = &va[0]; int m = 0; printf("rts before: %p\n", rts); *rts++ = (m == 2) ? a() : b(); printf("rts after: %p\n", rts); } --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. --0-1981467892-1136744847=:23845 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Looks like a code generation bug in OS X 10.4's compiler.  In the MOO's execute.c, in the OP_RANGE_REF code:

} else {                                         
    PUSH((base.type == TYPE_STR                  
          ? substr(base, from.v.num, to.v.num)   
          : sublist(base, from.v.num, to.v.num)));
    /* base freed by substr/sublist */           
    free_var(from);                              
    free_var(to);                                
}                                                

substr() is never called - it's not even put into execute.o's symbol table. And rts is not incremented - PUSH is a macro, (*(rts++) = v).  So the run-time stack gets messed up.  It's not a macro bug - the same problem happens if I run cc -E execute.c and compile the output file.  If I take away the ++, the object file does get a reference to substr().  So, this change appears to make things work:

719c719                                   
< #define PUSH(v)       (*(rts++) = v)    
---                                       
> #define PUSH(v)       (*rts = (v), rts++, rts[-1])

If anyone has a way to submit bug reports to Apple, here's a short program that demonstrates the bug:

#include <stdio.h>                                  
                                                    
typedef struct {                                    
        int i;                                      
} Var;                                              
                                                    
Var a()                                             
{                                                   
        Var v; v.i=1; printf("called a\n"); return v;
}                                                   
                                                    
Var b()                                             
{                                                   
        Var v; v.i=1; printf("called b\n"); return v;
}                                                   
                                                    
main()                                              
{                                                   
        Var va[10];                                 
        Var *rts = &va[0];                          
        int m = 0;                                  
                                                    
        printf("rts before: %p\n", rts);             
        *rts++ = (m == 2) ? a() : b();              
        printf("rts after: %p\n", rts);              
}                                                   




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Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. --0-1981467892-1136744847=:23845-- From jung@uib.no Fri Jan 13 18:34:52 2006 Received: from beci.com (www.the-b.org [66.148.239.44]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k0E0Yi5M008283 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:34:48 -0600 Received: from noralf.uib.no ([129.177.30.12] verified) by beci.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.7) with ESMTPS id 4524033 for moo-cows@the-b.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:34:33 -0600 Received-SPF: pass receiver=beci.com; client-ip=129.177.30.12; envelope-from=jung@uib.no Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by noralf.uib.no with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ExZND-00019B-BS; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:34:28 +0100 Received: from 117.84-48-30.nextgentel.com ([10.24.104.19]) [84.48.30.117] by smtp.uib.no for moo-cows@the-b.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ExZND-0000O6-2S; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:34:27 +0100 Message-ID: <43C8478F.5050403@uib.no> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:36:31 +0100 From: Daniel Jung User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Discussion related to the MOO platform." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on noralf X-Scanner: 29c2a89addf3eb6527a8e83d6f72a8c0 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 4.2 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; 4.2 BODY: Contains 'G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t' X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: Subject: [Moo-cows] hex poem X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:34:56 -0000 Hi Thouhgt I'd share this. I got an idea to write a poem in HTML color hex values. It occurred to me that a word like "added" could (nearly) be used as a value for a color: #added. Ex.: A person with a back pain could explain the origin of his ache with #bad #bed Or Upon the question what he wants, an apiarist in need of more bees could answer this to his father: #add #bee #dad Finding all the possible combinations manually is tiresome. So I thought I'd let the MOO generate a list of words to choose from. This is what I have done so far (I just began). This code generates all three-letter-words that are combinations of {a,b,c,d,e,f} and contain at least one vowel. 1: vowels = {"a", "e"}; 2: consonants = {"b", "c", "d", "f"}; 3: letters = {@consonants, @vowels}; 4: result = {}; 5: for one in (letters) 6: suspend(0); 7: for two in (letters) 8: suspend(0); 9: for three in (letters) 10: suspend(0); 11: string = {one, two, three}; 12: string_string = tostr(@string); 13: if (!(string_string in result)) 14: for s in (string) 15: if (s in vowels) 16: result = {@result, string_string}; 17: break; 18: endif 19: endfor 20: endif 21: endfor 22: endfor 23: endfor 24: this.result = result; Now, if I want six-letter values, I could expand the code from line 11 to have three more "for" loops, but that should ideally be done in some recursive manner I guess. How would you do that? Ideally, I would have to check that no impossible combinations be in the resulting list either. I.e., the three-letters list must not contain things like "#_df" or "#fd_" or anything phonotactically impossible. This is more complicated with six-letter words, since "df" is, e.g., not impossible in "#badfee" (taxes are a bad fee). Combinations like "dfd", however, most probably are. I would really be easier to compare the list elements to an actual dictionnary, but then one would throw out things like the aforementioned "#badfee", or "#beefad" (an advertisement for meat, alternativly the latest fashion in bee-patterned clothing). One could include zero (to be read as "o") into the vowel list, that would allow "#f00f00" or #d0b00b" (the latter being an instruction for a cosmetic surgeon to fix just one breast, or something...) but I am not too fond of too much script kiddie writing. Has anyone done something like this before? Thanks for comments. - Daniel From neil.fraser@gmail.com Fri Jan 13 23:02:13 2006 Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.200]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k0E524SY007198 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:02:04 -0600 Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c2so102114ugf for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:02:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kxOlZljRjjimYd0jmS/87KPftN5FMBKRq301g7abaDnz4zy/mSEFvHUKQC9Q0ScPWROgKoSKSw8Cz4489lN31Xg8ey8BbqIU6xk16T9L9mlDFSKFIt5DvoriEP9Xf/EgtxJdVQJekrR3KRsGqcOBJ7I7FwY3wfWd7K8Xm0umWts= Received: by 10.48.202.20 with SMTP id z20mr122478nff; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.34.20 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:02:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <416401b00601132102u56909419o@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:02:02 -0500 From: Neil Fraser To: "General MOO discussion." Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] hex poem In-Reply-To: <43C8478F.5050403@uib.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <43C8478F.5050403@uib.no> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by new.cgi101.com id k0E524SY007198 X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 05:02:13 -0000 On 13/01/06, Daniel Jung wrote: > I got an idea to write a poem in HTML color hex values. It occurred to > me that a word like "added" could (nearly) be used as a value for a > color: #added. I'd take the opposite approach. Instead of cranking out all permutations then looking for words, I'd take the English dictionary and grep ^[a-f]*$ A quick way to do so is just to use the search engine here: http://www.puzzlers.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=solving:wordlists:dictionary_search_adv That gives results such as: beefed, dabbed, decade, deface, efface, facade, feeded, etc. > Has anyone done something like this before? Sounds like DEADBEEF: http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/D/DEADBEEF.html -- Neil Fraser, Programmer & Wizard http://neil.fraser.name From jung@uib.no Fri Jan 13 23:26:10 2006 Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k0E5Q4Vw009634 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:26:06 -0600 Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by noralf.uib.no with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ExdvM-000183-FI; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:26:04 +0100 Received: from 117.84-48-30.nextgentel.com ([10.24.104.19]) [84.48.30.117] by smtp.uib.no for moo-cows@moo-cows.com with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ExdvM-0000ww-4u; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:26:00 +0100 Message-ID: <43C88BE5.1040808@uib.no> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:28:05 +0100 From: Daniel Jung User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "General MOO discussion." Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] hex poem References: <43C8478F.5050403@uib.no> <416401b00601132102u56909419o@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <416401b00601132102u56909419o@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on noralf X-Scanner: 4a4214c476e5814e8b41a0177cdb6c59 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 05:26:10 -0000 Hi Neil Fraser wrote: > I'd take the opposite approach. Instead of cranking out all > permutations then looking for words, I'd take the English dictionary > and grep ^[a-f]*$ Yes, thought of that as well. But (1) that wouldn't be a MOO-related issue (unless I setup a $network:connect etc.) (2) I wasn't aware of -> > http://www.puzzlers.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=solving:wordlists:dictionary_search_adv Perfect. Thanks. :) > Sounds like DEADBEEF: > http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/D/DEADBEEF.html not really... Thanks again. - Daniel From loufah2@yahoo.com Sat Jan 14 04:54:45 2006 Received: from web50702.mail.yahoo.com (web50702.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.100]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k0EAsVlb014588 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 04:54:31 -0600 Received: (qmail 3481 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2006 10:54:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DJGd8FdRIX8EjAuvH7PVb+ZSasHmvGwuXOYFerWMTZ20sRifGwGLxq8QAeQrrYOTWMoYX7JAVDNmIR9Qni9HOloFYlXuTxgiUvNsOtAQIXkHGWKaTVLPEvvcjG7dkXj66DBhv0uIWNN7mAw0OqCsEpELiW0QdnaPJ0uAC94TRNg= ; Message-ID: <20060114105430.3479.qmail@web50702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [135.207.21.84] by web50702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:54:30 PST Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:54:30 -0800 (PST) From: loufah loufah Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] hex poem To: "General MOO discussion." In-Reply-To: <43C8478F.5050403@uib.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-399216161-1137236070=:3018" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:54:52 -0000 --0-399216161-1137236070=:3018 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If your MOO has a $spell that still has its word database: for c in ({"a","b","c","d","e","f"}) for word in ($spell:find_all(c)) if (match(word,"^[a-f]+$")) player:tell(word); endif endfor suspend(0); endfor --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it! --0-399216161-1137236070=:3018 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
If your MOO has a $spell that still has its word database:

for c in ({"a","b","c","d","e","f"})
  for word in ($spell:find_all(c))
    if (match(word,"^[a-f]+$"))
      player:tell(word);
    endif
  endfor
  suspend(0);
endfor


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Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it! --0-399216161-1137236070=:3018-- From kira@lightsphere.com Fri Jan 20 20:44:20 2006 Received: from miniMac.local.oplink.net (209-223-49-107-dyndsl.oplink.net [209.223.49.107]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k0L2iHVx023979 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:44:18 -0600 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:44:20 -0600 From: Jackie Hamilton To: "General MOO discussion." Message-ID: <20060120204420.632198.89ef9c69@lightsphere.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (GMessage framework 1.3.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: GyazMail version 1.3.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] inter-moo communicator X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:44:22 -0000 I'm looking for some sort of gizmo that will let me set up a sort of comm-channel between two moos. Anyone have such an object? -- Jackie Hamilton kira@lightsphere.com From compgeek13@gmail.com Fri Jan 20 21:02:11 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k0L325Tr026629 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:02:05 -0600 Received: from [69.146.198.44] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-1.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.7) with SMTP id 362809126 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:02:09 -0700 Message-ID: <000901c61e37$15a865b0$2cc69245@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." References: <20060120204420.632198.89ef9c69@lightsphere.com> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] inter-moo communicator Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:02:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 03:02:12 -0000 why not just code something that lets you use an active connection, and a player, and just a little server? Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Hamilton" To: "General MOO discussion." Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 6:44 PM Subject: [Moo-cows] inter-moo communicator > > I'm looking for some sort of gizmo that will let me set up a sort of > comm-channel between two moos. Anyone have such an object? > > -- Jackie Hamilton > kira@lightsphere.com > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows From ahynes1@optonline.net Sun Jan 22 07:41:01 2006 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k0MDetd4002685 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:40:56 -0600 Received: from cv933025a (ool-4578367a.dyn.optonline.net [69.120.54.122]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with SMTP id <0ITH00M6AY0BDD00@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 08:40:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 08:40:41 -0500 From: Aldon Hynes Subject: RE: [Moo-cows] inter-moo communicator In-reply-to: <20060120204420.632198.89ef9c69@lightsphere.com> To: "General MOO discussion." Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:41:03 -0000 I've done a bit with inter-moo communications and written about it at http://ahynes1.homeip.net:8000/moo/connectivity.htm The most robust and widely used is probably SunNET. http://www.twyst.org/rupert/sunnet Aldon -----Original Message----- From: moo-cows-bounces@moo-cows.com [mailto:moo-cows-bounces@moo-cows.com]On Behalf Of Jackie Hamilton Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:44 PM To: General MOO discussion. Subject: [Moo-cows] inter-moo communicator I'm looking for some sort of gizmo that will let me set up a sort of comm-channel between two moos. Anyone have such an object? -- Jackie Hamilton kira@lightsphere.com _______________________________________________ Moo-cows mailing list Moo-cows@moo-cows.com http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows From loufah2@yahoo.com Sat Jan 28 08:43:49 2006 Received: from web50711.mail.yahoo.com (web50711.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.163]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with SMTP id k0SEhlQd007721 for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 08:43:47 -0600 Received: (qmail 11751 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jan 2006 14:43:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QbRwcyMwTahMtcnrwfOZQCkkTYBgaRQuChGL2IKqBIgvklzvBXbeOhg8efgJpOd0Irsx/Wo6mK+gewtC2xHlbyyDrvP5OIstQH1uMcZ1FjQafo5UL1h3W2cZMbytnp+hdykPoXdqU4noFmz2vsQ5XB4SO9g2nr7yOiW4AAo1t9I= ; Message-ID: <20060128144346.11749.qmail@web50711.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [135.207.21.84] by web50711.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 06:43:46 PST Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 06:43:46 -0800 (PST) From: loufah loufah Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with new server please To: "General MOO discussion." In-Reply-To: <20060108182727.26066.qmail@web50706.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1094764677-1138459426=:10945" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 14:43:50 -0000 --0-1094764677-1138459426=:10945 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The good news is, XCode 2.2 (which you can download from developer.apple.com) has fixed the code-generation bug that made the MOO server work incorrectly when doing range references. XCode 2.2 updates gcc from version 4.0.0 to 4.0.1. The bad news is, coworkers have found other bugs in the C compiler, and do not have a lot of confidence in it. So we've decided to fall back to gcc-3.3, which seems to be the same version that comes with 10.3. So if you compile the MOO server under 10.4, use something like CC=gcc-3.3 ./configure --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos --0-1094764677-1138459426=:10945 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
The good news is, XCode 2.2 (which you can download from developer.apple.com) has fixed the code-generation bug that made the MOO server work incorrectly when doing range references.  XCode 2.2 updates gcc from version 4.0.0 to 4.0.1.  The bad news is, coworkers have found other bugs in the C compiler, and do not have a lot of confidence in it.  So we've decided to fall back to gcc-3.3, which seems to be the same version that comes with 10.3.

So if you compile the MOO server under 10.4, use something like

CC=gcc-3.3 ./configure



What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos --0-1094764677-1138459426=:10945-- From compgeek13@gmail.com Sat Jan 28 17:05:52 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k0SN5lwo032167 for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:05:48 -0600 Received: from [72.174.29.174] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.6) with SMTP id 285565975 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:05:46 -0700 Message-ID: <000501c623fd$770c9850$ae1dae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 03:24:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] help with server not responding. X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:05:52 -0000 Hay list, I have a question. I have recompiled, and everything, and I still have the same problem. When I connect to my server, it says connected, (on my mud client) and then nothing else. I tried it with minimal.db, and I still get the same thing, so we know its not my database. Are tehre any ideas on how to fix this problem? its like it can't respond, but it doesn't have any problems opening the ports, or it wouldn't start to begin with. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] From lisdude@gmail.com Fri Mar 3 00:53:13 2006 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k236r9SB019987 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 00:53:09 -0600 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x7so627550nzc for ; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:53:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Ixtdyfg2gNn6q9b1Ph+AJ7Ios24aeJj0T2duv0lKrZVa3Go9jg7SRBEpyexHbLnyAXnj6q1jXGQp3KKntw6y6ZvLlF51XNALyyamEfhgH7I+8ePmj5kNZ7Rk741Q0s58ZNzxzeWjryNBh5uwuQ4W40go+1VW8+oU79SyjLIBZOk= Received: by 10.65.74.6 with SMTP id b6mr1178800qbl; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:53:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.188.3 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 22:53:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9f68ec590603022253q698b012bi2989f91487e4524e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 00:53:07 -0600 From: lisdude To: moo-cows@moo-cows.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by new.cgi101.com id k236r9SB019987 Subject: [Moo-cows] Archives, Cygwin and Bytecode Reduction, oh my! X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 06:53:19 -0000 Hello dearest MOOers! I have a few questions that I'm rather hopeful you will be able to help me with. First, I was wondering if anybody has any MOO-Cows archives from 1994, 1995, or 1997. I have a partial list of posts from 1995, but having the complete year would be fantastic. I've been digging around forever to find archives from the beginning to now, and either I'm really terrible with Google or 94 and 98 just don't exist anywhere. Another thing I've been wondering for some time is if anybody has been overly successful with the server and Cygwin yet. I have a copy of 1.8.2 running, but it seems to have a most unfortunate problem with seconds_left() always returning 0. I'm no server expert, so I haven't the slightest clue as to how one might correct this problem. In fact, I know next to nothing about the crazy thing and its inner workings. So any advice would be spectacular. Finally, I'm rather curious about this newfangled (or maybe not. I've no idea how long it has been there) bytecode reduction feature. Can anybody explain to me the benefit of enabling this? Or the disadvantage of having it enabled? Unfortunately, when I read the comments in options.h, my eyes glaze over and the drool of confusion falls from my now gaping mouth. I guess I lack the capacity for comprehending all of what it's telling me, so if anybody could put that into "simple" terms, I would be most appreciative. Anyway, thank you for the invaluable assistance I'm sure to receive! Oh, one more minor question. Does ParkMOO still exist? I've mostly been keeping to my own local MOOs lately, so it would be most interesting to visit some places that I knew back in the day. Thanks! From tvdijen@planet.nl Fri Mar 3 14:12:34 2006 Received: from smtp19.wxs.nl (smtp19.wxs.nl [195.121.247.10]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k23KCNNL014792 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:12:25 -0600 Received: from [10.0.0.150] (ip3e835ea5.speed.planet.nl [62.131.94.165]) by smtp19.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IVK007C1ISJ5E@smtp19.wxs.nl> for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:12:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:12:44 +0100 From: Tim van Dijen Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] Archives, Cygwin and Bytecode Reduction, oh my! In-reply-to: <9f68ec590603022253q698b012bi2989f91487e4524e@mail.gmail.com> To: "General MOO discussion." Message-id: <4408A33C.7000609@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) References: <9f68ec590603022253q698b012bi2989f91487e4524e@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 20:12:35 -0000 lisdude wrote: > Finally, I'm rather curious about this newfangled (or maybe not. I've > no idea how long it has been there) bytecode reduction feature. Can > anybody explain to me the benefit of enabling this? Or the > disadvantage of having it enabled? Unfortunately, when I read the > comments in options.h, my eyes glaze over and the drool of confusion > falls from my now gaping mouth. I guess I lack the capacity for > comprehending all of what it's telling me, so if anybody could put > that into "simple" terms, I would be most appreciative. > > It's kinda hard to explain what it does, but it's an optimalization that should make the MOO-server much faster... I use it for ages now and I haven't noticed any problems... I think it can be used safely, but notice the last couple of lines of comment in options.h: You won't be able to start your database on a MOO-server with BYTECODE_REDUCE_REF enabled, or you'd have to edit your MOO-database by hand. Greets, Goblin@PhantasyWorld Goblin@DareToDream Goblin@MedievalMOO From compgeek13@gmail.com Fri Mar 3 18:35:50 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k240ZlB2013965 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 18:35:47 -0600 Received: from [72.174.33.156] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-3.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with SMTP id 188274957 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:35:46 -0700 Message-ID: <000d01c63f23$9d069f60$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:36:01 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] help with server. X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:35:52 -0000 Hello list, I am using the moo server, under the TCP protocol, anyway, when I connect to it, I can connect fine, but I don't get anything back from the server. I don't get my login message, or anything. I know this isn't the database, because I have tried this on a blank minimal database, and a blank lambda database, and a blank jhcore database, and it still gives me this problem. can someone suggest a fix for this problem? Thanks, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] From compgeek13@gmail.com Fri Mar 24 20:53:53 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2P2rlCh023282 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:53:48 -0600 Received: from [72.174.33.156] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-1.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with SMTP id 410853952 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:53:45 -0700 Message-ID: <000501c64fb7$645ddbc0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:54:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 02:53:53 -0000 Hay list, I have tried recompiling the moo, and even trying it on three different machines, and I still get the same problem, When I try to connect to my mud with a client, it says connecting, (it can find the host) but then it stopps there, the moo is unresponsive past that point. Any ideas? thanks, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] From rorith@kydance.net Fri Mar 24 21:12:21 2006 Received: from mail.forgeglobal.com (ip-209-90-77-82.forgeglobal.com [209.90.77.82]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2P3CKAl025744 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:12:20 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.forgeglobal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6A4D4E93 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:12:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail.forgeglobal.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.forgeglobal.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 31001-03 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:12:17 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail.forgeglobal.com (Postfix, from userid 81) id 84921D4E8C; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:12:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from 166.70.166.218 (SquirrelMail authenticated user rorith@kydance.net) by mail.kydance.net with HTTP; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:12:17 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <34504.166.70.166.218.1143256337.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> In-Reply-To: <000501c64fb7$645ddbc0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> References: <000501c64fb7$645ddbc0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:12:17 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection From: rorith@kydance.net To: moo-cows@moo-cows.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 03:12:24 -0000 Any chance it's loading the minimal.db? You don't get any output when you connect to it, if I recall correctly. > Hay list, > I have tried recompiling the moo, and even trying it on three different > machines, and I still get the same problem, > When I try to connect to my mud with a client, it says connecting, (it can > find the host) but then it stopps there, the moo is unresponsive past that > point. > Any ideas? > thanks, > Tyler Littlefield. > Check out our website: > http://tysplace.the-leetest.net > check out my blog: > livejournal.com/~tylerrl > [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] > [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] > > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows > From compgeek13@gmail.com Fri Mar 24 21:17:19 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2P3HHm6026765 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:17:18 -0600 Received: from [72.174.33.156] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-1.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with SMTP id 410860294 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:17:15 -0700 Message-ID: <000901c64fba$ad256be0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." References: <000501c64fb7$645ddbc0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> <34504.166.70.166.218.1143256337.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:17:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 03:17:21 -0000 nope... I am not loading minimal.db. I can remove it from the dir, and it doesn't do anything differently. Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection > Any chance it's loading the minimal.db? You don't get any output when you > connect to it, if I recall correctly. > >> Hay list, >> I have tried recompiling the moo, and even trying it on three different >> machines, and I still get the same problem, >> When I try to connect to my mud with a client, it says connecting, (it >> can >> find the host) but then it stopps there, the moo is unresponsive past >> that >> point. >> Any ideas? >> thanks, >> Tyler Littlefield. >> Check out our website: >> http://tysplace.the-leetest.net >> check out my blog: >> livejournal.com/~tylerrl >> [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] >> [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moo-cows mailing list >> Moo-cows@moo-cows.com >> http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows >> > > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows From rorith@kydance.net Fri Mar 24 21:27:41 2006 Received: from mail.forgeglobal.com (ip-209-90-77-82.forgeglobal.com [209.90.77.82]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2P3RdGQ027558 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:27:39 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.forgeglobal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC83D4E98 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:27:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail.forgeglobal.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.forgeglobal.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24443-11-3 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:27:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail.forgeglobal.com (Postfix, from userid 81) id EC7CDD4E8C; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:27:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from 166.70.166.218 (SquirrelMail authenticated user rorith@kydance.net) by mail.kydance.net with HTTP; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:27:36 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <41652.166.70.166.218.1143257256.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> In-Reply-To: <000901c64fba$ad256be0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> References: <000501c64fb7$645ddbc0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> <34504.166.70.166.218.1143256337.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> <000901c64fba$ad256be0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:27:36 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection From: rorith@kydance.net To: "General MOO discussion." User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 03:27:41 -0000 Any firewalls anywhere in the mix? > nope... I am not loading minimal.db. > I can remove it from the dir, and it doesn't do anything differently. > Tyler Littlefield. > Check out our website: > http://tysplace.the-leetest.net > check out my blog: > livejournal.com/~tylerrl > [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] > [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection > > >> Any chance it's loading the minimal.db? You don't get any output when >> you >> connect to it, if I recall correctly. >> >>> Hay list, >>> I have tried recompiling the moo, and even trying it on three different >>> machines, and I still get the same problem, >>> When I try to connect to my mud with a client, it says connecting, (it >>> can >>> find the host) but then it stopps there, the moo is unresponsive past >>> that >>> point. >>> Any ideas? >>> thanks, >>> Tyler Littlefield. >>> Check out our website: >>> http://tysplace.the-leetest.net >>> check out my blog: >>> livejournal.com/~tylerrl >>> [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] >>> [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moo-cows mailing list >>> Moo-cows@moo-cows.com >>> http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moo-cows mailing list >> Moo-cows@moo-cows.com >> http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows > > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows > From compgeek13@gmail.com Fri Mar 24 21:49:51 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2P3nmRx030252 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:49:48 -0600 Received: from [72.174.33.156] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-3.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with SMTP id 194765065 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:49:46 -0700 Message-ID: <000701c64fbf$37dd84d0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." References: <000501c64fb7$645ddbc0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg><34504.166.70.166.218.1143256337.squirrel@mail.kydance.net><000901c64fba$ad256be0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> <41652.166.70.166.218.1143257256.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:50:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 03:49:52 -0000 trashed em all in my attempt to fix the problem. Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "General MOO discussion." Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection > Any firewalls anywhere in the mix? > >> nope... I am not loading minimal.db. >> I can remove it from the dir, and it doesn't do anything differently. >> Tyler Littlefield. >> Check out our website: >> http://tysplace.the-leetest.net >> check out my blog: >> livejournal.com/~tylerrl >> [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] >> [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection >> >> >>> Any chance it's loading the minimal.db? You don't get any output when >>> you >>> connect to it, if I recall correctly. >>> >>>> Hay list, >>>> I have tried recompiling the moo, and even trying it on three different >>>> machines, and I still get the same problem, >>>> When I try to connect to my mud with a client, it says connecting, (it >>>> can >>>> find the host) but then it stopps there, the moo is unresponsive past >>>> that >>>> point. >>>> Any ideas? >>>> thanks, >>>> Tyler Littlefield. >>>> Check out our website: >>>> http://tysplace.the-leetest.net >>>> check out my blog: >>>> livejournal.com/~tylerrl >>>> [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] >>>> [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moo-cows mailing list >>>> Moo-cows@moo-cows.com >>>> http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moo-cows mailing list >>> Moo-cows@moo-cows.com >>> http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moo-cows mailing list >> Moo-cows@moo-cows.com >> http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows >> > > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows From rorith@kydance.net Fri Mar 24 22:13:03 2006 Received: from mail.forgeglobal.com (ip-209-90-77-82.forgeglobal.com [209.90.77.82]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2P4CuvU032069 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:12:57 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.forgeglobal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F5DD4EA4 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:12:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail.forgeglobal.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.forgeglobal.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28248-08 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:12:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail.forgeglobal.com (Postfix, from userid 81) id 91D2BD4E8C; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:12:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from 166.70.166.218 (SquirrelMail authenticated user rorith@kydance.net) by mail.kydance.net with HTTP; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:12:53 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <34198.166.70.166.218.1143259973.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> In-Reply-To: <000701c64fbf$37dd84d0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> References: <000501c64fb7$645ddbc0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg><34504.166.70.166.218.1143256337.squirrel@mail.kydance.net><000901c64fba$ad256be0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> <41652.166.70.166.218.1143257256.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> <000701c64fbf$37dd84d0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:12:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection From: rorith@kydance.net To: moo-cows@moo-cows.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 04:13:03 -0000 Hmmm. I'm out of troubleshooting questions. Mind handing out the address so I can see if it's a problem with the server, or with your client? > trashed em all in my attempt to fix the problem. > > Tyler Littlefield. > Check out our website: > http://tysplace.the-leetest.net > check out my blog: > livejournal.com/~tylerrl > [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] > [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] > ----- Original Message ----- From compgeek13@gmail.com Fri Mar 24 22:16:45 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2P4GhFZ000482 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:16:43 -0600 Received: from [72.174.33.156] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-3.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with SMTP id 194770588 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:16:41 -0700 Message-ID: <000701c64fc2$fa5e4690$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." References: <000501c64fb7$645ddbc0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg><34504.166.70.166.218.1143256337.squirrel@mail.kydance.net><000901c64fba$ad256be0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg><41652.166.70.166.218.1143257256.squirrel@mail.kydance.net><000701c64fbf$37dd84d0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> <34198.166.70.166.218.1143259973.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:17:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 04:16:45 -0000 tysdomain.homelinux.net port 2222 Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection > Hmmm. I'm out of troubleshooting questions. Mind handing out the address > so I can see if it's a problem with the server, or with your client? > >> trashed em all in my attempt to fix the problem. >> >> Tyler Littlefield. >> Check out our website: >> http://tysplace.the-leetest.net >> check out my blog: >> livejournal.com/~tylerrl >> [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] >> [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] >> ----- Original Message ----- > > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows From rorith@kydance.net Fri Mar 24 22:24:33 2006 Received: from mail.forgeglobal.com (ip-209-90-77-82.forgeglobal.com [209.90.77.82]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2P4OWkh000978 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:24:32 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.forgeglobal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAC9D4EA3 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:24:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail.forgeglobal.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.forgeglobal.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 31001-06 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:24:29 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail.forgeglobal.com (Postfix, from userid 81) id 6D942A0CD0; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:24:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from 166.70.166.218 (SquirrelMail authenticated user rorith@kydance.net) by mail.kydance.net with HTTP; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:24:29 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <44567.166.70.166.218.1143260669.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> In-Reply-To: <000701c64fc2$fa5e4690$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> References: <000501c64fb7$645ddbc0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg><34504.166.70.166.218.1143256337.squirrel@mail.kydance.net><000901c64fba$ad256be0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg><41652.166.70.166.218.1143257256.squirrel@mail.kydance.net><000701c64fbf$37dd84d0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> <34198.166.70.166.218.1143259973.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> <000701c64fc2$fa5e4690$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:24:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection From: rorith@kydance.net To: moo-cows@moo-cows.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 04:24:34 -0000 Well... I'm having the same problems, so it's definately serverside. Have you checked the logfiles? > tysdomain.homelinux.net port 2222 > > Tyler Littlefield. > Check out our website: > http://tysplace.the-leetest.net > check out my blog: > livejournal.com/~tylerrl > [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] > [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] From tvdijen@planet.nl Sat Mar 25 02:36:52 2006 Received: from smtp13.wxs.nl (smtp13.wxs.nl [195.121.247.4]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2P8an2h027585 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 02:36:50 -0600 Received: from [10.0.0.150] (ip3e835ea5.speed.planet.nl [62.131.94.165]) by smtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IWO00IWUD9A9K@smtp13.wxs.nl> for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:36:47 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:36:55 +0100 From: Tim van Dijen Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection In-reply-to: <44567.166.70.166.218.1143260669.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> To: "General MOO discussion." Message-id: <44250127.1010205@planet.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) References: <000501c64fb7$645ddbc0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> <34504.166.70.166.218.1143256337.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> <000901c64fba$ad256be0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> <41652.166.70.166.218.1143257256.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> <000701c64fbf$37dd84d0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> <34198.166.70.166.218.1143259973.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> <000701c64fc2$fa5e4690$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> <44567.166.70.166.218.1143260669.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 08:36:53 -0000 rorith@kydance.net schreef: > Well... I'm having the same problems, so it's definately serverside. Have > you checked the logfiles? > > >> tysdomain.homelinux.net port 2222 >> >> Tyler Littlefield. >> Check out our website: >> http://tysplace.the-leetest.net >> check out my blog: >> livejournal.com/~tylerrl >> [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] >> [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] >> > > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows > > You have probably changed something to the server... I have seen this problem many times when I tried to start to MOO with one of my own server-patches... Then I knew I had to start all over again :P Goblin From compgeek13@gmail.com Sun Mar 26 15:06:59 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2QL6vMZ024101 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:06:58 -0600 Received: from [72.174.33.156] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-3.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with SMTP id 195240165 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:06:54 -0700 Message-ID: <000901c65119$46e67b20$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." References: <000501c64fb7$645ddbc0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg><34504.166.70.166.218.1143256337.squirrel@mail.kydance.net><000901c64fba$ad256be0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg><41652.166.70.166.218.1143257256.squirrel@mail.kydance.net><000701c64fbf$37dd84d0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg><34198.166.70.166.218.1143259973.squirrel@mail.kydance.net><000701c64fc2$fa5e4690$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> <44567.166.70.166.218.1143260669.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:07:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:07:00 -0000 nothing there either. Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection > Well... I'm having the same problems, so it's definately serverside. Have > you checked the logfiles? > >> tysdomain.homelinux.net port 2222 >> >> Tyler Littlefield. >> Check out our website: >> http://tysplace.the-leetest.net >> check out my blog: >> livejournal.com/~tylerrl >> [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] >> [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] > > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows From compgeek13@gmail.com Sun Mar 26 15:07:36 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2QL7YWE024175 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:07:35 -0600 Received: from [72.174.33.156] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-1.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with SMTP id 411371451 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:07:32 -0700 Message-ID: <001301c65119$5d80eb40$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." References: <000501c64fb7$645ddbc0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg><34504.166.70.166.218.1143256337.squirrel@mail.kydance.net><000901c64fba$ad256be0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg><41652.166.70.166.218.1143257256.squirrel@mail.kydance.net><000701c64fbf$37dd84d0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg><34198.166.70.166.218.1143259973.squirrel@mail.kydance.net><000701c64fc2$fa5e4690$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg><44567.166.70.166.218.1143260669.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> <44250127.1010205@planet.nl> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:08:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:07:37 -0000 this happens when I redownload a full version though... Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim van Dijen" To: "General MOO discussion." Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 12:36 AM Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection > rorith@kydance.net schreef: >> Well... I'm having the same problems, so it's definately serverside. Have >> you checked the logfiles? >> >> >>> tysdomain.homelinux.net port 2222 >>> >>> Tyler Littlefield. >>> Check out our website: >>> http://tysplace.the-leetest.net >>> check out my blog: >>> livejournal.com/~tylerrl >>> [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] >>> [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moo-cows mailing list >> Moo-cows@moo-cows.com >> http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows >> >> > You have probably changed something to the server... > I have seen this problem many times when I tried to start to MOO with one > of my own server-patches... > Then I knew I had to start all over again :P > > Goblin > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows From compgeek13@gmail.com Sun Mar 26 16:09:28 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2QM9OXE031063 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:09:25 -0600 Received: from [72.174.33.156] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-1.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with SMTP id 411387384 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:09:21 -0700 Message-ID: <000901c65122$0006a050$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:09:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] re: unresponsive moo X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:09:29 -0000 Hay, I didn't catch this before, and I just now did because I had a friend do it, but when I compile, it says /bin/ssh pgperf command not found. or something like that. What does that mean? How would I fix it? Thanks, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] From compgeek13@gmail.com Sun Mar 26 16:13:06 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2QMD53D031445 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:13:06 -0600 Received: from [72.174.33.156] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-3.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with SMTP id 195255258 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:13:03 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01c65122$84ac9a80$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." References: <000901c65122$0006a050$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] re: unresponsive moo Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:13:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:13:07 -0000 Hay, I don't think I got that error rite, but it was throwing an error with pgperf, I know it wasn't ssh, lol. but I am not sure what it could have been, thats just what it sounded like. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message ----- From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 2:09 PM Subject: [Moo-cows] re: unresponsive moo > Hay, > I didn't catch this before, and I just now did because I had a friend do > it, but when I compile, it says /bin/ssh pgperf command not found. > or something like that. > What does that mean? How would I fix it? > Thanks, > Tyler Littlefield. > Check out our website: > http://tysplace.the-leetest.net > check out my blog: > livejournal.com/~tylerrl > [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] > [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows From compgeek13@gmail.com Mon Mar 27 10:20:06 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2RGK3tN023597 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:20:04 -0600 Received: from [72.174.33.156] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-1.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with SMTP id 411606667 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:20:01 -0700 Message-ID: <000901c651ba$5e11a760$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:20:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] pgperf? X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:20:06 -0000 Hay, What is pgperf? I am getting errors with it in compilation. It says, command not found. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] From loufah2@yahoo.com Mon Mar 27 12:45:36 2006 Received: from web50706.mail.yahoo.com (web50706.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.104]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with SMTP id k2RIjZni010054 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:45:35 -0600 Received: (qmail 68938 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Mar 2006 18:45:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Jop7Pr/1yFm4iehDGspwgZj5pIkVIdLTP+PbOSQXpJmoV/2pZz9vhjMJxm24hHegAEqA8p8ChokiwNqnkncjxzFrH0PJDAmcxZhwgdnxEWvuawIe4qvTQYI8UyVy2XJDgEAtEhBJgfiKZ5pVEXNVq6IHFIL7cHYxm1C5tLDsPb4= ; Message-ID: <20060327184533.68936.qmail@web50706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [135.207.22.213] by web50706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:45:33 PST Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:45:33 -0800 (PST) From: loufah loufah Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection To: "General MOO discussion." In-Reply-To: <44567.166.70.166.218.1143260669.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1637679717-1143485133=:68601" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:45:37 -0000 --0-1637679717-1143485133=:68601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I tried getting lambdamoo source via CVS, to see if something changed recently, but I'm getting rejected. Anyone else having any luck? $ cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/lambdamoo login Logging in to :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:2401/cvsroot/lambdamoo CVS password: cvs login: authorization failed: server cvs.sourceforge.net rejected access to /cvsroot/lambdamoo Tyler, try "telnet localhost 2222" from the machine the moo server is running on. If that works, but connection attempts from outside the machine fail, it's likely a firewall issue. --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. --0-1637679717-1143485133=:68601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I tried getting lambdamoo source via CVS, to see if something changed recently, but I'm getting rejected.  Anyone else having any luck?

$ cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/lambdamoo login
Logging in to :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:2401/cvsroot/lambdamoo
CVS password: <I entered newline here>
cvs login: authorization failed: server cvs.sourceforge.net rejected access to /cvsroot/lambdamoo

Tyler, try "telnet localhost 2222" from the machine the moo server is running on.  If that works, but connection attempts from outside the machine fail, it's likely a firewall issue.



Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. --0-1637679717-1143485133=:68601-- From compgeek13@gmail.com Mon Mar 27 13:21:38 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2RJLWiX014250 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:21:32 -0600 Received: from [72.174.33.156] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-1.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with SMTP id 411660693 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:21:29 -0700 Message-ID: <002c01c651d3$b85a9010$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." References: <20060327184533.68936.qmail@web50706.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet connection Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:21:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01C65190.A9E167E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:21:38 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C65190.A9E167E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tried it, and... nothing. Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message -----=20 From: loufah loufah=20 To: General MOO discussion.=20 Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help with unresponsive moo on internet = connection I tried getting lambdamoo source via CVS, to see if something changed = recently, but I'm getting rejected. Anyone else having any luck? $ cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/lambdamoo = login Logging in to = :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:2401/cvsroot/lambdamoo CVS password: cvs login: authorization failed: server cvs.sourceforge.net rejected = access to /cvsroot/lambdamoo Tyler, try "telnet localhost 2222" from the machine the moo server is = running on. If that works, but connection attempts from outside the = machine fail, it's likely a firewall issue. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Blab-away for as little as 1=A2/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using = Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ Moo-cows mailing list Moo-cows@moo-cows.com http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C65190.A9E167E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
tried it, and... nothing.
 
Tyler Littlefield.
Check out our website:
http://tysplace.the-leetest.net<= /A>
check=20 out my blog:
livejournal.com/~tylerrl
[my programs don't have = bugs, just=20 randomly added features]
[failure is not an option, it comes bundled = with=20 windows!]
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 loufah = loufah=20
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 = 10:45=20 AM
Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help = with=20 unresponsive moo on internet connection

I tried getting lambdamoo source via CVS, to see if = something=20 changed recently, but I'm getting rejected.  Anyone else having = any=20 luck?

$ cvs = -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/lambdamoo=20 login
Logging in to=20 :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:2401/cvsroot/lambdamoo
CVS = password:=20 <I entered newline here>
cvs login: authorization failed: = server=20 cvs.sourceforge.net rejected access to = /cvsroot/lambdamoo

Tyler, try=20 "telnet localhost 2222" from the machine the moo server is running = on. =20 If that works, but connection attempts from outside the machine fail, = it's=20 likely a firewall issue.



Blab-away for as little as 1=A2/min. Make PC-to-Phone=20 Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.


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http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo= /moo-cows
------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C65190.A9E167E0-- From compgeek13@gmail.com Wed Mar 29 18:22:57 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2U0MkiH012826 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:22:46 -0600 Received: from [72.174.33.156] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-1.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with SMTP id 412660173 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:22:43 -0700 Message-ID: <002a01c65390$23e230a0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:23:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] help please? X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:22:58 -0000 Hay list, I have had trouble with this moo for a long time. I don't know if it is the copy that I am downloading, or what is going on. Could someone please help me in getting this thing up and running? My moo and other experties are limited, but they are ok, so I would be willing to do some kind of work in order to return the favor if that is why someone hasn't shone the light on this thing. I have had this thing down for like four months, and my dev team is getting really irritated that I haven't been able to bring it up again. Does someone have a working copy that they could let me have a copy of? I could get it from wget, ftp, cvs, or any other resource you guys find reasonable. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] From rorith@kydance.net Wed Mar 29 18:30:28 2006 Received: from mail.forgeglobal.com (ip-209-90-77-82.forgeglobal.com [209.90.77.82]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2U0UQqA014064 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:30:26 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.forgeglobal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D1B9A9F7 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:30:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail.forgeglobal.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.forgeglobal.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18781-06-2 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:30:23 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail.forgeglobal.com (Postfix, from userid 81) id 53A2E9A911; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:30:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from 166.70.166.218 (SquirrelMail authenticated user rorith@kydance.net) by mail.kydance.net with HTTP; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:30:23 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <55681.166.70.166.218.1143678623.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> In-Reply-To: <002a01c65390$23e230a0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> References: <002a01c65390$23e230a0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:30:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help please? From: rorith@kydance.net To: "General MOO discussion." User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:30:28 -0000 I can't do much else just troubleshooting over the list. And since I'm currently unemployed, I'm disinclined to do free consulting. But I'm willing to log into your shell and set it all up for a small free of, say $20. If I can't get it working, no charge. Your choice. :) > Hay list, > I have had trouble with this moo for a long time. > I don't know if it is the copy that I am downloading, or what is going on. > Could someone please help me in getting this thing up and running? > My moo and other experties are limited, but they are ok, so I would be > willing to do some kind of work in order to return the favor if that is > why > someone hasn't shone the light on this thing. I have had this thing down > for > like four months, and my dev team is getting really irritated that I > haven't > been able to bring it up again. > Does someone have a working copy that they could let me have a copy of? > I could get it from wget, ftp, cvs, or any other resource you guys find > reasonable. > Thanks, > Tyler Littlefield. > Check out our website: > http://tysplace.the-leetest.net > check out my blog: > livejournal.com/~tylerrl > [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] > [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] > > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows > From compgeek13@gmail.com Wed Mar 29 18:32:05 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2U0W3Eh014245 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:32:03 -0600 Received: from [72.174.33.156] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with SMTP id 325541875 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:32:00 -0700 Message-ID: <000701c65391$7045be20$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." References: <002a01c65390$23e230a0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> <55681.166.70.166.218.1143678623.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help please? Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:32:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:32:05 -0000 I'll see. I will have to get some money together, and you might be my only offer, so stand by! How many servers would you get it working on? Thanks, Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "General MOO discussion." Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help please? >I can't do much else just troubleshooting over the list. And since I'm > currently unemployed, I'm disinclined to do free consulting. But I'm > willing to log into your shell and set it all up for a small free of, say > $20. If I can't get it working, no charge. Your choice. :) > >> Hay list, >> I have had trouble with this moo for a long time. >> I don't know if it is the copy that I am downloading, or what is going >> on. >> Could someone please help me in getting this thing up and running? >> My moo and other experties are limited, but they are ok, so I would be >> willing to do some kind of work in order to return the favor if that is >> why >> someone hasn't shone the light on this thing. I have had this thing down >> for >> like four months, and my dev team is getting really irritated that I >> haven't >> been able to bring it up again. >> Does someone have a working copy that they could let me have a copy of? >> I could get it from wget, ftp, cvs, or any other resource you guys find >> reasonable. >> Thanks, >> Tyler Littlefield. >> Check out our website: >> http://tysplace.the-leetest.net >> check out my blog: >> livejournal.com/~tylerrl >> [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] >> [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moo-cows mailing list >> Moo-cows@moo-cows.com >> http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows >> > > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows From rorith@kydance.net Wed Mar 29 18:35:54 2006 Received: from mail.forgeglobal.com (ip-209-90-77-82.forgeglobal.com [209.90.77.82]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2U0ZqPN014520 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:35:52 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.forgeglobal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8D79BEEC for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:35:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail.forgeglobal.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.forgeglobal.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22756-05 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:35:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail.forgeglobal.com (Postfix, from userid 81) id 2F3049A911; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:35:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from 166.70.166.218 (SquirrelMail authenticated user rorith@kydance.net) by mail.kydance.net with HTTP; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:35:49 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <36422.166.70.166.218.1143678949.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> In-Reply-To: <000701c65391$7045be20$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> References: <002a01c65390$23e230a0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> <55681.166.70.166.218.1143678623.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> <000701c65391$7045be20$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:35:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help please? From: rorith@kydance.net To: "General MOO discussion." User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:35:54 -0000 Hmmm. If there's multiple servers, let's add $5/server beyond the first for that. Honestly, I'm not sure what you might be doing wrong, so I don't know if I can actually get it running. It may be a library on your servers causing them problem. If you're interested, I also offer cheap MOO hosting, and I know for a fact that it works on my box. :) MOO hosting is $5/month per port. > I'll see. I will have to get some money together, and you might be my only > offer, so stand by! > How many servers would you get it working on? > Thanks, > Check out our website: > http://tysplace.the-leetest.net > check out my blog: > livejournal.com/~tylerrl > [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] > [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "General MOO discussion." > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help please? > > >>I can't do much else just troubleshooting over the list. And since I'm >> currently unemployed, I'm disinclined to do free consulting. But I'm >> willing to log into your shell and set it all up for a small free of, >> say >> $20. If I can't get it working, no charge. Your choice. :) >> >>> Hay list, >>> I have had trouble with this moo for a long time. >>> I don't know if it is the copy that I am downloading, or what is going >>> on. >>> Could someone please help me in getting this thing up and running? >>> My moo and other experties are limited, but they are ok, so I would be >>> willing to do some kind of work in order to return the favor if that is >>> why >>> someone hasn't shone the light on this thing. I have had this thing >>> down >>> for >>> like four months, and my dev team is getting really irritated that I >>> haven't >>> been able to bring it up again. >>> Does someone have a working copy that they could let me have a copy of? >>> I could get it from wget, ftp, cvs, or any other resource you guys find >>> reasonable. >>> Thanks, >>> Tyler Littlefield. >>> Check out our website: >>> http://tysplace.the-leetest.net >>> check out my blog: >>> livejournal.com/~tylerrl >>> [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] >>> [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moo-cows mailing list >>> Moo-cows@moo-cows.com >>> http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moo-cows mailing list >> Moo-cows@moo-cows.com >> http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows > > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows > From compgeek13@gmail.com Wed Mar 29 18:40:28 2006 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.57]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k2U0eQqV014873 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:40:26 -0600 Received: from [72.174.33.156] (HELO dataplus4puarg) by fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with SMTP id 325543854 for moo-cows@moo-cows.com; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:40:24 -0700 Message-ID: <000901c65392$9c1a2e90$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> From: "tyler" To: "General MOO discussion." References: <002a01c65390$23e230a0$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg><55681.166.70.166.218.1143678623.squirrel@mail.kydance.net><000701c65391$7045be20$9c21ae48@dataplus4puarg> <36422.166.70.166.218.1143678949.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help please? Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:40:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:40:29 -0000 ok, I might take it... and might end up paying you $35, I have a comp for play, and two that I use 1 for the real thing, and one for backup. These aren't all mine, but... I might be putting the three accounts up like that. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield. Check out our website: http://tysplace.the-leetest.net check out my blog: livejournal.com/~tylerrl [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "General MOO discussion." Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help please? > Hmmm. If there's multiple servers, let's add $5/server beyond the first > for that. > > Honestly, I'm not sure what you might be doing wrong, so I don't know if I > can actually get it running. It may be a library on your servers causing > them problem. > > If you're interested, I also offer cheap MOO hosting, and I know for a > fact that it works on my box. :) MOO hosting is $5/month per port. > >> I'll see. I will have to get some money together, and you might be my >> only >> offer, so stand by! >> How many servers would you get it working on? >> Thanks, >> Check out our website: >> http://tysplace.the-leetest.net >> check out my blog: >> livejournal.com/~tylerrl >> [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] >> [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: "General MOO discussion." >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] help please? >> >> >>>I can't do much else just troubleshooting over the list. And since I'm >>> currently unemployed, I'm disinclined to do free consulting. But I'm >>> willing to log into your shell and set it all up for a small free of, >>> say >>> $20. If I can't get it working, no charge. Your choice. :) >>> >>>> Hay list, >>>> I have had trouble with this moo for a long time. >>>> I don't know if it is the copy that I am downloading, or what is going >>>> on. >>>> Could someone please help me in getting this thing up and running? >>>> My moo and other experties are limited, but they are ok, so I would be >>>> willing to do some kind of work in order to return the favor if that is >>>> why >>>> someone hasn't shone the light on this thing. I have had this thing >>>> down >>>> for >>>> like four months, and my dev team is getting really irritated that I >>>> haven't >>>> been able to bring it up again. >>>> Does someone have a working copy that they could let me have a copy of? >>>> I could get it from wget, ftp, cvs, or any other resource you guys find >>>> reasonable. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Tyler Littlefield. >>>> Check out our website: >>>> http://tysplace.the-leetest.net >>>> check out my blog: >>>> livejournal.com/~tylerrl >>>> [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features] >>>> [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moo-cows mailing list >>>> Moo-cows@moo-cows.com >>>> http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moo-cows mailing list >>> Moo-cows@moo-cows.com >>> http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moo-cows mailing list >> Moo-cows@moo-cows.com >> http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows >> > > _______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows From jhsw1@mn.rr.com Thu Apr 6 13:59:29 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.122]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k36IxRI3031758 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:59:28 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.101] (CPE-65-25-240-34.mn.res.rr.com [65.25.240.34]) by ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k36IxMiE010075 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:59:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.385 [268.3.5/302]); Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:58:11 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01c659ac$0d1d9f90$6500a8c0@dellsrv> From: "Jason" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:58:10 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] MOO memory usage? X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:59:30 -0000 Hi, Can anyone tell me what the MOO server uses to get it's memory usage stats. My MOO never has them, and I'd really like to have those, especially if my MOO suddenly decides to eat up a lot of CPU cycles or something. Where it's hosted now, I have a limit to the percentage of ram and CPU I can use. I'd have a constantly running background task running that checked to make sure the usage didn't get too high, and if it did, it would trigger a shutdown countdown. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/302 - Release Date: 4/5/2006 From jhsw1@mn.rr.com Thu Apr 6 14:22:44 2006 Received: from ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.122]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k36JMaK7002102 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:22:37 -0500 Received: from dellsrv (CPE-65-25-240-34.mn.res.rr.com [65.25.240.34]) by ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k36JMXx1024608 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:22:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.385 [268.3.5/302]); Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:21:22 -0500 Message-ID: <002a01c659af$4a4347f0$6500a8c0@dellsrv> From: "Jason" To: "General MOO discussion." Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:21:22 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] oh and another thing X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:22:44 -0000 Hi again, Where in the source code of the server do I need to go, and what do I need to do to add new E_* error values to the server? Thanks again, Jason. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/302 - Release Date: 4/5/2006 From neil.fraser@gmail.com Fri Apr 7 10:52:27 2006 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.186]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k37FqPrb026863 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:52:25 -0500 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c31so295635nfb for ; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:52:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rzvWR08qQLYNOk2F56BN/xQxLIqCOLMevXYv9G5YSI4D7W3C5qf/9Oh4LOabzhv74Dw85obwljXz+b9+YkqFwG6Q8edWaEJc5BzxImjHuO2dX11XvbE0RxcH1ctZH1vY5pPp5TBzMctfXhogxE4dzARS4VNciJNF4L5S9SIjBNc= Received: by 10.48.238.7 with SMTP id l7mr1687792nfh; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.208.13 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <416401b00604070852h36170587g1c18d7c30d03db0b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:52:22 -0400 From: "Neil Fraser" To: "General MOO discussion." Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] oh and another thing In-Reply-To: <002a01c659af$4a4347f0$6500a8c0@dellsrv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <002a01c659af$4a4347f0$6500a8c0@dellsrv> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by new.cgi101.com id k37FqPrb026863 X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:52:28 -0000 On 06/04/06, Jason wrote: > Where in the source code of the server do I need to go, and what do I need > to do to add new E_* error values to the server? structures.h Lots of good stuff in there. /* Do not reorder or otherwise modify this list, except to add new elements at * the end, since the order here defines the numeric equivalents of the error * values, and those equivalents are both DB-accessible knowledge and stored in * raw form in the DB. */ enum error { E_NONE, E_TYPE, E_DIV, E_PERM, E_PROPNF, E_VERBNF, E_VARNF, E_INVIND, E_RECMOVE, E_MAXREC, E_RANGE, E_ARGS, E_NACC, E_INVARG, E_QUOTA, E_FLOAT }; -- Neil Fraser, Programmer & Wizard http://neil.fraser.name From neil.fraser@gmail.com Fri Apr 7 10:56:30 2006 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.184]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k37FuQUU027183 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:56:27 -0500 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i2so280657nfe for ; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:56:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kiv/i1l5WLMEjsSbQ95z+J5TJVotxRXKv+ClRqY+LqfM7XLTghuxIiLYJCqolv249dJTaBYq62+cbct3lnT7DEA3zgjaTzqNkmOZuE+/0ewiMOqqNNoCq1WbiJwdPHF9EF9BG6v0LtdV+IPnx1hLGa2CanEGoPCI3x5qym+z2Hw= Received: by 10.49.35.3 with SMTP id n3mr215838nfj; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.208.13 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <416401b00604070856g7bcf8202yf9e5b81da07ebb27@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:56:22 -0400 From: "Neil Fraser" To: "General MOO discussion." Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] MOO memory usage? In-Reply-To: <001a01c659ac$0d1d9f90$6500a8c0@dellsrv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <001a01c659ac$0d1d9f90$6500a8c0@dellsrv> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by new.cgi101.com id k37FuQUU027183 X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:56:30 -0000 On 06/04/06, Jason wrote: > Can anyone tell me what the MOO server uses to get it's memory usage stats. > My MOO never has them, In ten years I've never met a Moo which had them. One approach is to code a simple CGI script on our server which generates a text-only webpage stating the current memory condition. Then in the Moo use open_network_connection() to fetch this info. -- Neil Fraser, Programmer & Wizard http://neil.fraser.name From compgeek13@gmail.com Sun Apr 9 11:07:30 2006 Received: from nsfone.fone.net (mx2.fone.net [206.168.68.96]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k39G7S83021472 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:07:29 -0500 Received: from mail2.fone.net (mail2.fone.net [206.168.68.165]) by nsfone.fone.net (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k39G5nHn013657 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 10:05:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from grandmasfury (ftcw30.ftc.fone.net [207.174.192.34]) by mail2.fone.net (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k39G6E3C018618 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 10:06:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <001701c65bef$b22d1c50$6501a8c0@grandmasfury> From: "Tyler Littlefield" To: Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 10:07:21 -0600 Organization: Dataplus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C65BBD.642EC0D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.3.0.1, Antispam-Data: 2006.04.09.075106 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] server debug? X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tyler Littlefield , "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:07:31 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C65BBD.642EC0D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hay, I just debugged the server, and I get the following information. I can connect through localhost, and it shows me accepting, and it shows = me disconnecting, but it doesn't show anything else. Any ideas? Thanks, ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C65BBD.642EC0D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hay,
I just debugged the server, and I get = the following=20 information.
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Any ideas?
Thanks,
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C65BBD.642EC0D0-- From compgeek13@gmail.com Fri May 12 00:02:44 2006 Received: from nsfone.fone.net (mx2.fone.net [206.168.68.96]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k4C52h9f008279 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 00:02:43 -0500 Received: from mail2.fone.net (mail2.fone.net [206.168.68.165]) by nsfone.fone.net (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k4C50ANh001336 for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 23:00:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from grandmasfury (ftcw30.ftc.fone.net [207.174.192.34]) by mail2.fone.net (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id k4C513RW028919 for ; Thu, 11 May 2006 23:01:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <017a01c67581$483ac580$6501a8c0@grandmasfury> From: "Tyler Littlefield" To: Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 22:59:56 -0600 Organization: Dataplus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01C6754E.9F6C4690" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.3.0.1, Antispam-Data: 2006.5.11.205106 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: [Moo-cows] looking for coders and/or code X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tyler Littlefield , "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 05:02:45 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C6754E.9F6C4690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hay list, I am trying to write a space system, and don't have the math and moo = experience to do this, Is someone willing to give up some code, or help with this? Thanks, ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C6754E.9F6C4690 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C6754E.9F6C4690-- From rorith@kydance.net Fri May 12 10:52:41 2006 Received: from mail.forgeglobal.com (ip-209-90-77-82.forgeglobal.com [209.90.77.82]) by new.cgi101.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k4CFqdtp012337 for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 10:52:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.forgeglobal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F09FF7D26; Fri, 12 May 2006 09:52:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Received: from mail.forgeglobal.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.forgeglobal.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tG6HiYAeYDf1; Fri, 12 May 2006 09:52:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail.forgeglobal.com (Postfix, from userid 81) id 87691F7CFA; Fri, 12 May 2006 07:54:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 166.70.166.218 (SquirrelMail authenticated user rorith@kydance.net) by mail.kydance.net with HTTP; Fri, 12 May 2006 07:54:04 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <51948.166.70.166.218.1147442044.squirrel@mail.kydance.net> In-Reply-To: <017a01c67581$483ac580$6501a8c0@grandmasfury> References: <017a01c67581$483ac580$6501a8c0@grandmasfury> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 07:54:04 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [Moo-cows] looking for coders and/or code From: rorith@kydance.net To: "Tyler Littlefield" , "General MOO discussion." User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: X-BeenThere: moo-cows@moo-cows.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General MOO discussion." List-Id: General MOO discussion. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 15:52:42 -0000 > Hay list, > I am trying to write a space system, and don't have the math and moo > experience to do this, > Is someone willing to give up some code, or help with this? > Thanks,_______________________________________________ > Moo-cows mailing list > Moo-cows@moo-cows.com > http://lists.cgi101.com/mailman/listinfo/moo-cows > I'm in the middle of finishing up a similar system, and I'm willing to offer advice, although porting the whole thing to another MOO would take quite a bit of work. It's fairly customized to my needs. Probably the most important pieces of info I've got that I can give you are a pair of verbs I wrote for converting polar to cartesian coordinates, and the math for calculating the distance between two cartesian coordinates. If you're interested in guidance, let me know. And maybe you'll even see something that I can do to optimize my code further. :) Matthew