# DBs

Kipp the Kidd (mcmudge@mailbox.syr.edu)
Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:33:44 PST

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    At 08:39 PM 3/14/96 PST, Hans Friedrich-- wrote:
    >Are there any good DBs out there with the barest minimum defined? Mostly
    >the player class, object class, and all the login stuff. I am tired to
    >death with the bugs that I am finding strewn about, mainly caused by the
    >interation between the Lambda Server 1.8.0 and the LambdaCore. I also just
    >followed the advice of a person that thought they knew how to fix some of
    >the callers() thing, and had my stuff mangeled beyond repair. Maybe I fill
    >up your mail-boxes with questions, but at least you guys are the ones that
    >are actually any good at this, and maybe I can learn something from you...
    >It is not going to help the blind (one group of newbies) to lead the blind
    >(another group of newbies), or we'll all end up smashing our stuff on the
    >same cleft of rock.

    I think it's about time someone told you that you need more experience with
    MOOs.  You have been constantly posting to the mailing list with one-line
    questions for things that (in my opinion) all ArchWizards should know.
    Re-read the prorammer's manual, re-read the FAQs, and ask, once all other
    sources have failed to answer.  I suggest finding your favorite LambdaCore
    MOO, getting a programmer's bit, and asking the heck out of all the users
    there.  Learn the ins and outs, perhaps some politics too, and then try to
    get a wizard bit.  Once you are able to do this, THEN you have the knowledge
    to start your own MOO.  I went through 4 wizard bits and a very good tutor
    before starting my first LambdaCore MOO.  It took me four crashes and
    another wizard bit before I could even THINK that I could use something
    'minimal' .. ie, minimal.db.

    Of course, you should also realise that all those bugs bother you, wouldn't
    if you didn't stumble across them, so it's just a matter of preference:
    buggy object or no object at all.

    - Kipp
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