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# Re: Recommended reading

- Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:24:56 PDT
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- Cc: Zachary DeAquila <zachary@zachs.place.org>, moo-cows@parc.xerox.com
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- In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961002223541.00706eec@butterfly.net>

    I thought there was something familiar about it!  Guess I am in the right
    place

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    On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, michael reece wrote:

    > funny how MUDs and mental hospitals are so similar.
    >
    > i propose we change .wizard to .quack in future versions.
    >
    > At 02:28 PM 10/2/96 PDT, Zachary DeAquila wrote:
    > >
    > >A friend forwarded me this:
    > >
    > >------- Forwarded Message
    > >
    > >Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT)
    > >From: Phil Agre <pagre@weber.ucsd.edu>
    > >To: Red Rock Eater List <rre@weber.ucsd.edu>
    > >
    > >[...]
    > >
    > >People who run MUD's keep telling me variants of the same story, whose
    > >upshot is that some user starts behaving in extremely divisive ways and
    > >starts turning the whole place inside out. One typical pattern is for this
    > >user to do something outrageous, provoke a strict response, scream about
    > >injustice, and polarize the community between lovers of order who hate
    > >the user and lovers of fairness who hate the administration. Another
    > >typical pattern is people who wait until the last minute of a group
    > >decision-making process to raise fundamental objections, carrying on about
    > >dictatorship unless everyone starts the whole process over again from
    > >scratch. Such people give genuine crusaders for justice a bad name, of
    > >course, and they also cause immense and mysterious upset. Everybody who
    > >operates a MUD should read R.D. Hinshelwood's book "What Happens in
    > >Groups:  Psychoanalysis, the Individual and the Community", London: Free
    > >Association Books, 1987. It is a detailed account of exactly this sort of
    > >behavior.  It's set in mental hospitals, of course, as opposed to MUD's,
    > >but the principles are the same.
    > >
    > >
    > >------- End of Forwarded Message
    > >
    > >
    > >
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