# MOO-Cows Digest V1 #324

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    MOO-Cows Digest           Friday, 2 February 1996      Volume 01 : Number 324

    In this issue:

    	Variables
    	Ian Macintosh (no offense intendend if I spelt it wrong.)
    	Verb Operation
    	$user_connected()
    	connection_name()
    	Suggestion...
    	login disconnects
    	(no subject)
    	MOO-Cows FAQ: Feb 01 1996
    	Thanks and goodbye...
    	Is the list still here?
    	Re: CDA -=IMPORTANT=-
    	CDA -=IMPORTANT=-
    	[newbie wiz info]

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    From: mcmudge@mailbox.syr.edu (Kipp the Kidd)
    Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:00:07 -0800
    Subject: Variables

    I recently found a need for something that gives information about
    variables, like, all the defined variables and their value, just for
    debugging... and maybe something similar that can be put into a traceback.
    Since I haven't seen any BFs that would define or do anything with a
    variable, I guess it would be tough to write one...

    I think it might have already been suggested...

    - - Kipp
    `-!@#$%^&*()_+|\=-~`-!@#$%^&*()_+|\=-~`-!@#$%^&*()_+|\=-~`-!@#$%^&*()_+|\=-~`-!
    ` Kipp - Michael Mudge #     I like to live close to home    # Syracuse       !
    `     Owner of MOO2000 #       moo.microwave.com 2000        # New York       !
    `-!@#$%^&*()_+|\=-~`-!@#$%^&*()_+|\=-~`-!@#$%^&*()_+|\=-~`-!@#$%^&*()_+|\=-~`-!

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    From: Edward Goff <egoff@iquest.com>
    Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:45:52 -0800
    Subject: Ian Macintosh (no offense intendend if I spelt it wrong.)

    I'm looking for thatperson.. the one who made the patch for ansi  for
    1.7.8p4 ..wel it works for .1.7.9p2 but not for 1.8.0 so if your out ther
    Ian .. you working on an upgrade.. do you know thisproblem exists..
    uhhh..are you going to do it..

    excuse the typing just got up.. :)

    thanks all

    egoff@vespucci.iquest.com

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    From: "John P. Wilson" <paladin@wavopt431.tbe.com>
    Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:50:16 -0800
    Subject: Verb Operation

    Okay, say I am trying to open and close a container (#410) by using the
    following syntax and results:

    ;#410:("open")()
    You open nothing.
    => 0
    ;#410.opened
    => 1
    ;#410:("close")()
    You close nothing.
    => 0
    ;#410.opened
    => 0

    I know that the "You open nothing." is from the  pronoun_sub on an
    open message "You open %d.".  What arguments do I send or what do I
    do get it to say "You open Object-Name." ?

    - -------------------------------------------------------------------
    - - paladin@WavOpt431.tbe.com - John P. Wilson -
    "Government is not reason or eloquence, it is power, and like fire
     can be a useful servant, or a fearful master." - George Washington

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    From: Rich Connamacher <phantom@baymoo.sfsu.edu>
    Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:53:37 -0800
    Subject: $user_connected()

    If #0:user_disconnected() is called for unlogged-in connections, then why
    isn't #0:user_connected() called for unlogged-in connections as well?

    Phantom

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    From: mcmudge@mailbox.syr.edu (Kipp the Kidd)
    Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:57:57 -0800
    Subject: connection_name()

    Since the info 'PORT from ADDRESS, port PORT' is 99% of the time parsed into
    ADDRESS, why not have connection_name() return
    {address,LOCAL-PORT,REMOTE-PORT}?  Compare connection_name(x)[1] to the
    longer match().

    - - Kipp

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    From: Richard Connamacher <phantom@baymoo.sfsu.edu>
    Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:53:17 -0800
    Subject: Suggestion...

    Something just occoured to me that might be nice, a listappend
    operator...

    l = {1, 2, 3};
    l &= 4;
    "l is now {1, 2, 3, 4}";

    Perhaps a setremove operator would be nice too.  I'm just
    brainstorming here. :-)

    This would greatly simplify lines that I'm always writing, like
    $wiz_utils.programmer_restricted =
    listappend($wiz_utils.programmer_restricted, who);

    Phantom

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    From: jesse montrose <jesse@spine.com>
    Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 21:34:34 -0800
    Subject: login disconnects

    Has anyone seen this?

    >telnet trout 7777
    Connected to trout
    Escape character is '^]'.
    *** Disconnected ***
    Connection closed by foreign host.

    The moo is up and running, in fact, I have an active connection to it in
    another window.

    This has happened before, it does this for a while, then eventually accepts
    new connections again.

    Shutting the moo down and restarting works, but for obvious reasons, I'm
    hoping there's another solution? :)

    Thanks for any advice...
    ____________________________________________________________________
    jesse montrose <jesse@spine.com> http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home
    After seven years, I was sent home to my family.  Little man, I give
    the watch to you.

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    From: Cesar Henriques <mentor@bilobite.fe.up.pt>
    Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:46:29 -0800
    Subject: (no subject)

    subcsribe MOO-Cows.parc@xerox.com mentor@bilobite.fe.up.pt

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    From: "Kenneth R. Fox" <fox@ccs.neu.edu>
    Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 14:42:33 -0800
    Subject: MOO-Cows FAQ: Feb 01 1996

    The regularly scheduled MOO-Cows FAQ mailing has been replaced with
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    You can find the MOO-Cows FAQ
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    This pointer is mailed out monthly.

    - ---
    Ken Fox
    Maintainer of the MOO-Cows FAQ
    Please address comments and questions about the FAQ to fox@ccs.neu.edu

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    From: PILOSOF AVI <avi.pilosof@tafensw.edu.au>
    Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 15:04:00 -0800
    Subject: Thanks and goodbye...

    Well, my work here is done.

    I finally managed to learn enough about MOOs to program a full booking
    system for my workplace, and it is time for me to leave, returning to my uni
    holidays :)

    I'd like to thank this list for being so cool, and helping me with so many
    problems.

    Perhaps my successor wizard will join the list, but I doubt it.

    Thanks again, and have a good one.

    Avi

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    From: hpa@trantor.storm.net (H. Peter Anvin)
    Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:41:51 -0800
    Subject: Is the list still here?

    I haven't received anything since the first digest, so I wanted to
    verify the list was still operating properly...

    	-hpa
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    From: Martian <martian@elysian.net>
    Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:59:57 -0800
    Subject: Re: CDA -=IMPORTANT=-

    Martian wrote:
    > [I'm sending this to everyone in my address book.]

    Er.. _DREDFULLY_ sorry about that. Forgot these two were in that list.

            <Hanging head in shame>

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    From: Martian <martian@elysian.net>
    Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:55:35 -0800
    Subject: CDA -=IMPORTANT=-

    [I'm sending this to everyone in my address book.]

    The following is a list of links to articles about the death of the internet.

    Yes, folks, the Communications Decency Act passed. 414-16 in the house, 91-5 in the senate. I
    figure, if you don't already know about this, then you probably don't read my messages anyway.

    The begining of the end? Possibly. The question is.. What do we do about it?

     - Martian

    - -----

    http://www.cnn.com/US/9602/telecom_passage/index.html
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washdc/ncs16.htm
    http://www1.trib.com/WIRE/CURRENT/wash/WASHINGTON__Legislation_to_ove.html

    - -----

    - --
     ____    ____  Martian                   (Wizard) Martian #141 @ MidgardMOO
    |    \  /    | martian@elysian.net           telnet://moo.elysian.net:8888
    |  +-\\//-+  | awsmyth@mccoy.cs.twsu.edu         Martian #96675 @ LambdaMOO
    |  |  \/  |  | themartian@aol.com           telnet://lambda.xerox.com:8888
    |__|artian|__|                          http://wwwhome.elysian.net/~martian

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    From: lpolin@pepperdine.edu (Linda Polin)
    Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 02:22:52 -0800
    Subject: [newbie wiz info]

    I'm sending this to MOO-Cows in hopes of garnering participation by select
    wise ole wizardly types who would be willing to occasionally lend us newbs
    assistance on our own "turf" described below.

    Fellow Newbs and Interested Others:

    Our newbie wiz group had a small but happy and successful first meeting on
    the 31st. We decided to s et up a majordomo list, archives, and a web page
    with pointers to the archives, the newbie archwiz faq, and sundry points of
    interest. (A cleaned up and somewhat edited for brevity transcript is
    available from me now, eventually via the web page  below.)

    We agreed to initiate a group-blessed list of cool, functional, documented
    generics...sometime and somehow.
    We agreed to meet regularly on the last wed of every month in a different MOO.

    Thanks to Jay,
    MOO-Calves majordomo list will be:  moo-calves@ccat.sas.upenn.edu
    the archives will be at:
    gopher://ccat.sas.upenn..edu:70/11/journals/moo-calves/archives

    Thanks to Ryan,
    the web site will be at: http://www.teleport.com/~rday/moo-calves.html

    Please help make this a vital, friendly, and enduring working group. Hope
    to "see" you at the next meeting, Feb. 28 at PennMOO, more info to follow I
    imagine.

    Linda P.

    Linda Polin, Ph.D.
    Associate Professor of Education,
    Director, MA in Education & Teacher Crendential Programs
    Pepperdine University - Grad Sch of Education & Psych
    400 Corporate Pointe, Culver City, CA 90230
    internet: lpolin@pepperdine.edu
    http://moon.pepperdine.edu/~lpolin/lpolin.html
    FAX: 310-568-5755

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