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# Re: Signal 11 Panics

- Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 23:06:04 PDT
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- CC: MOO-Cows@parc.xerox.com
- In-reply-to: <3269B4B7.714D@wichita.fn.net> (message from Martian on Sat, 19 Oct 1996 22:12:23 PDT)

    >>>>> "Martian" == Martian  <wsmyth@wichita.fn.net> writes:

        Martian> Every once in a while, without any pattern we've seen,
        Martian> MidgardMOO will panic on signal 11.  Twice it's even
        Martian> happened DURING a checkpoint (once causing a loss of both
        Martian> DBs)

        Martian> It's a dedicated server with no one logged into the
        Martian> server itself at the time.

        Martian> First question: What is signal 11?  Second question: What
        Martian> might be causing it?  Third question: How can we stop it
        Martian> panicing the MOO?

    Signal 11 is usually a memory problem, such as segment violation, etc.
    The Linux 2.0.0 docs mention that you can get a Signal 11 when doing
    kernel builds, and that it usually means a memory hardware problem,
    such as a flakey RAM module or some such thing.

    Since most modern cheap PCs no longer have memory parity, there is no
    good way to detect when this foolishness occurs except a signal 11.
    This unfortunately does not give you the physical address of the
    error.  Not that it would help nowdays, what with the complicated DRAM
    controllers, you never know where a particular address is located in
    the actual hardware anymore :-(

    I just hope they have parity on the machine that keeps my bank
    ballance!

    So if you are running Linux 2,.0.0, there is a distinct possibility
    that you have a bad memory module, and this is just how it shows up.

    If you are running on a *REAL* computer, like an HP-9000, or a Sun
    Sparc, or a Silly-G, then you might have some other problem (then
    again, it might *BE* memory...).

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