# A good set of generic questions...

Andrew Wilson (andrew@aaaaaaaa.demon.co.uk)
Tue, 21 May 1996 14:59:45 PDT

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    [Why don't you people use real names for fks sake?!]

    > >My recommendation would be to talk to Andy Wilson and work on creating
    > >widgets for tkmoo, a client running under tk/tcl.
    >
    > tkmoo is nice, but tk is _not_ portable, no matter what sunlabs tell you.

    Mmm, interesting observation.

    > My preference is to do this stuff in Java, which is what I am doing. The
    > key advantage is to be able to deliver the interface to the MOO via
    > the net - secure Tcl/Tk is a long way off. Java security flaws pale
    > into insignificance next to what unsolicited Tcl code can do.

    Another one.

    > Starting from the ground up, Java is a nice way to build clients.
    > DU-moo is nice, but it's a bit immature at the moment.. as soon as I'm
    > done tidying some rough edges, I'll let you in on the client I'm
    > using for CoSMOO - once the sysadmins let me have my machine back, I'll
    > gladly demo it to people..

    Just grab some screen shots and web it for us.  Please.

    > Then again, William of Ockham (Occam?) could use his razor on the
    > unneccessarily complex MOO text editing interface (the major stumbling
    > block for newbies, surely). Tell me hypertext is harder to use than MOO.
    > No one will, because it simply isn't true.

    What does the former statement have to to with the latter.

    > > MOO is a textual interface.  As such its dependency on graphics is
    > > virtually nil.
    >
    > Again, this depends on the application. Teaching relies on engaging as
    > many of the senses as possible. MOO objects cannot convey the richness
    > of web documents, its time they are able to.

    Agreed.

    > I agree, which explains why the first thrust of my work has been to add
    > simple markup to MOO - italics and bold text make a spectacular difference.

    Interesting.

    > I am certainly not suggesting going plug-in crazy. Java is here to stay,
    > though, and could be ideal for the task. Anybody who shares my view,
    > reply by mail or catch me (Grommit) on MediaMOO.

    No, go plugin crazy, kill all this tf/emacs bullshit dead before
    Netscape beats you to it.  I would ;)

    > Mike Houghton

    Ay.

    Andrew.Wilson@cm.cf.ac.uk http://www.cm.cf.ac.uk/User/Andrew.Wilson/